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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::336]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4-20020a056870170400b0010c5005e1c8si66286oae.3.2022.09.09.08.54.27 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Sep 2022 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pauloney-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::336 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::336; Original-Received: by mail-ot1-x336.google.com with SMTP id v2-20020a056830090200b006397457afecso1307231ott.13 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2022 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:4386:b0:637:3636:e29f with SMTP id s6-20020a056830438600b006373636e29fmr5390842otv.294.1662738866686; Fri, 09 Sep 2022 08:54:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: pauloney-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="Z/C138f2"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pauloney-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::336 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pauloney-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:31352 Archived-At: --00000000000080d19505e8408fd9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 3:31 AM BPJ wrote: > Den fre 9 sep. 2022 03:09Paulo Ney de Souza skrev: > >> One of the beauties of Pandoc is the architecture that allows for very >> easy >> expansion and that shows on the number of (ever increasing) formats >> supported. >> >> That made me wonder what formats Pandoc does not cover, yet! I kind of >> know two of them: >> >> The Rocket eBook (RB) format of the first eBook reader: >> >> https://docs.fileformat.com/ebook/rb/ >> >> The Compiled HTML (CHM) that Microsoft used a huge lot for documentation: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help >> > > Aren't these of historical interest only? (Although they might make sense > as source formats.) > Not just historical. There is a large amount of material that has been issued in these two formats and not re-issued in anything after that... so from the point of view of preservation I would thik it is quite important. Microsoft introduced CHM about 1996 and was the precursor of the Microsoft Reader .lit format. Their Press for the first years of eBook publication used only CHM. Most eBooks of that era are available in CHM only. Calibre used to do RB but support for it was dropped recently. I am not sure why. Pandoc already supports a number of eBooks formats: ePub2, ePub3, HTML, FB2,... and with probably little work could support most others: LRF, LIT, Topaz, SNB, MOBI, AZW3, AZW4, BOOK, KFX, HTMLZ, PDB,.... It is true that Calibre supports many of these, but any modifications on a Reader because of variation on input, is much easier on Pandoc than on Calibre. > >> What other file formats you would like to see being supported by Pandoc? >> > > Perl's Pod documentation format. I have been working on a custom writer > and am almost there. It mostly just needs documentation (which I by > occupational injury am very picky about) and a way to make some things > configurable when implemented as a custom writer rather than as a filter > mogrifying plain output (Question to Albert: are metadata available to > custom writers?) > > A reader would be nice although Pod::Pandoc < > https://metacpan.org/pod/Pod::Pandoc> sort of fills that niche (and > Pandoc::Elements would probably need some updating, which I as the main > contributor am as guilty as anybody of not doing!) Since Pod in principle > is extensible I would like a reader which is smart enough to turn > nonstandard commands and formatting codes into Pandoc Divs and Spans, and a > convention like > > That is great! Can't wait to see it. Paulo Ney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 3:31 AM BPJ &l= t;melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org<= /a>> wrote:
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Den fre 9 sep. 2022 03:09Paulo Ney de Souza <pauloney-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:<= br>
One of the beauties of Pandoc is the architecture that allows for very eas= y=C2=A0
expansion and that shows on the number of (ever increasing) for= mats
supported.=C2=A0

That made me wonde= r what formats Pandoc does not cover, yet! I kind of
know two of = them:

The Rocket eBook (RB) format of the first eB= ook reader:=C2=A0


The Comp= iled HTML (CHM) that Microsoft used a huge lot for documentation:=C2=A0

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Aren= 't these of historical interest only? (Although they might make sense a= s source formats.)

Not just his= torical. There is a large amount of material that has been issued in these = two formats and not re-issued in anything after that... so from the point= =C2=A0of view of preservation I would thik=C2=A0it is quite important. Micr= osoft introduced CHM about 1996 and was the precursor of the Microsoft Read= er .lit format. Their Press for the first years of eBook publication used o= nly CHM. Most eBooks of that era are available in CHM only.

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Calibre used to do RB but support for it was dropped recently. I = am not sure why. Pandoc already supports a number of eBooks formats: ePub2,= ePub3, HTML, FB2,... and with probably little work could support most othe= rs:=C2=A0LRF, LIT, Topaz, SNB, MOBI, AZW3, AZW4, BOOK, KFX,=C2=A0 HTMLZ, PD= B,.... It is true that Calibre=C2=A0supports many of these, but any modific= ations on a Reader because of variation on input, is much easier on Pandoc = than on Calibre.



What other file formats you would l= ike to see being supported by Pandoc?
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Perl's Pod documentation f= ormat. I have been working on a custom writer and am almost there. It mostl= y just needs documentation (which I by occupational injury am very picky ab= out) and a way to make some things configurable when implemented as a custo= m writer rather than as a filter mogrifying plain output (Question to Alber= t: are metadata available to custom writers?)=C2=A0
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A reader would be nice although Pod::Pandoc <= ;https:/= /metacpan.org/pod/Pod::Pandoc> sort of fills that niche (and Pandoc:= :Elements would probably need some updating, which I as the main contributo= r am as guilty as anybody of not doing!) Since Pod in principle is extensib= le I would like a reader which is smart enough to turn nonstandard commands= and formatting codes into Pandoc Divs and Spans, and a convention like


That i= s great! Can't wait to see it.

Paulo Ney
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