As someone who has just submitted a PhD in classics & ancient history, which was written using pandoc and tex exclusively, I just want to point out that quoting ancient texts as below (like they are modern translated works) isn’t the proper way to cite or reference them, and so a lot of the bother can be avoided simply by citing them correctly: 1. Works are referenced using a standard method to reference ancient authors and their works, usually the format from the Oxford Classical Encyclopedia but other standard references are also available. 2. Don’t cite page numbers -- use the reference numbers from one of the standard critical editions (good translations will have these annotated in them, e.g. Oxford World Classics editions) 3. Have a separate ‘ancient bibliography’ section which shows your sources and their translations (if you aren’t translating it yourself) e.g. here’s a sample cut-and-paste from my ancient sources *Cic*. (Cicero) *Div*. — M. Tullius Cicero, Plasberg, O., & Ax, W., (1965)*. De Divinatione, De Fato, Timaeus* (Editio stereo- typa editionis primae (MCMXXXVIII) ed., Scripta quae manserunt omnia; fasc. 46). Stutgardiae: In aedibus B.G. Teubneri. *Dom*. — M. Tullius Cicero & Peterson, W. (1910). *Orationes. Cum Senatui Gratias Egit, Cum Populo Gratias Egit, De Domo Sua, De Haruspicum Responso, Pro Sestio, In Vatinium, De Provinciis Consularibus, Pro Balbo* (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford: The Clarendon Press. *Har. resp.* — See *Dom*. for source text. *Nat. D*. — M. Tullius Cicero, Mayor, J. B., & Swainson, J. H. (2010). *De Natura Deorum Libri Tres* (Text of Book II. with Critical Notes. (pp. 1-64)). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. *Prov. cons.* — See *Dom*. for source text. *Rep*. — M. Tullius Cicero & Powell, J.G.F. (2006). *De Re Publica, De Legibus, Cato Maior De Senectute, Laelius De Amicitia *(Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford, New York: Oxford University Press. And from my pandoc/markdown source file, manually typed: *Cic.* ~ (Cicero) ~ *Div.* --- M. Tullius Cicero, Plasberg, O., & Ax, W., (1965). *De Divinatione, De Fato, Timaeus* (Editio stereotypa editionis primae (MCMXXXVIII) ed., Scripta quae manserunt omnia; fasc. 46). Stutgardiae: In aedibus B.G. Teubneri. ~ *Dom.* --- M. Tullius Cicero & Peterson, W. (1910). *Orationes. Cum Senatui Gratias Egit, Cum Populo Gratias Egit, De Domo Sua, De Haruspicum Responso, Pro Sestio, In Vatinium, De Provinciis Consularibus, Pro Balbo* (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford: The Clarendon Press. ~ *Har. resp.* --- See *Dom.* for source text. ~ *Nat. D.* --- M. Tullius Cicero, Mayor, J. B., & Swainson, J. H. (2010). *De Natura Deorum Libri Tres* (Text of Book II. with Critical Notes. (pp. 1-64)). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ~ *Prov. cons.* --- See *Dom.* for source text. ~ *Rep.* --- M. Tullius Cicero & Powell, J.G.F. (2006). *De Re Publica, De Legibus, Cato Maior De Senectute, Laelius De Amicitia* (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford, New York: Oxford University Press. So when I cited a section from one of the above it would be cited as e.g. “Cic. *Har. resp.* 23.48.” All my *modern* sources on the other hand were cited with citeproc and managed from a bibtex file, so the footnote that contains the citation referenced above literally looks like this: [^fn02_37]: Cic. *Har. resp.* 23.48. Further discussion in, for example: [@Nice1999 p.272; @Stevenson2015 p.74-75; @Osgood2009 p.330-331; @Sumi2009 p.171-172; @Szemler1971 p.130; @Bell1997 p.11; @Taylor2000 p.16]. It really annoys me to see a reference like, (Cicero 57 B.C.E. p.122). It’s not right, if you have an editor that insists otherwise, that editor is flat wrong. regards scot -- Scot Mcphee Computer Programmer, Classics PhD. p +61 412 957414 e scot.mcphee-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org w http://autonomous.org/ t @scotartt On 17 August 2019 at 03:18:09, Joseph Reagle (joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org) wrote: I've seen a couple of bugs discussing ranges, multiples, negatives (BCE), and circa, but in playing with a minimal example, I can't figure out the correct format. Is there documentation on this? I can get BCE to work with a negative 'year' integer. But circa... ``` issued: - year: 161 - circa: 1 ``` puts a `-` after AD? ```

  • Marcus Aurelius, Meditations, ed. Maxwell Staniforth (London: Penguin Books, 161AD–).↩︎

    • ``` No idea how to do a range or multiple specification. (I do use 'original-date''year', but chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl doesn't seem to use that...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/d2ebd6b1-8877-03d7-9ab0-268207fcac79%40reagle.org. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAFnRE0Sr6xopjG7cwCACfR%2Bx3Rgok68Y0cQu7Xpajg1yF%2BVyLg%40mail.gmail.com.