As someone who has just submitted a PhD in classics & ancient history, which was written using pandoc and tex exclusively, I just want to point out that quoting ancient texts as below (like they are modern translated works) isn’t the proper way to cite or reference them, and so a lot of the bother can be avoided simply by citing them correctly:

Works are referenced using a standard method to reference ancient authors and their works, usually the format from the Oxford Classical Encyclopedia but other standard references are also available.
Don’t cite page numbers -- use the reference numbers from one of the standard critical editions (good translations will have these annotated in them, e.g. Oxford World Classics editions)
Have a separate ‘ancient bibliography’ section which shows your sources and their translations (if you aren’t translating it yourself)

e.g. here’s a sample cut-and-paste from my ancient sources

Cic. (Cicero)

Div. — M. Tullius Cicero, Plasberg, O., & Ax, W., (1965). De Divinatione, De Fato, Timaeus (Editio stereo- typa editionis primae (MCMXXXVIII) ed., Scripta quae manserunt omnia; fasc. 46). Stutgardiae: In aedibus B.G. Teubneri.

Dom. — M. Tullius Cicero & Peterson, W. (1910). Orationes. Cum Senatui Gratias Egit, Cum Populo Gratias Egit, De Domo Sua, De Haruspicum Responso, Pro Sestio, In Vatinium, De Provinciis Consularibus, Pro Balbo (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford: The Clarendon Press.

Har. resp. — See Dom. for source text.

Nat. D. — M. Tullius Cicero, Mayor, J. B., & Swainson, J. H. (2010). De Natura Deorum Libri Tres (Text of Book II. with Critical Notes. (pp. 1-64)). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

Prov. cons. — See Dom. for source text.

Rep. — M. Tullius Cicero & Powell, J.G.F. (2006). De Re Publica, De Legibus, Cato Maior De Senectute, Laelius De Amicitia (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford, New York: Oxford University Press.

And from my pandoc/markdown source file, manually typed:

*Cic.*
~ (Cicero)
~ *Div.* --- M. Tullius Cicero, Plasberg, O., & Ax, W., (1965). *De Divinatione, De Fato, Timaeus* (Editio stereotypa editionis primae (MCMXXXVIII) ed., Scripta quae manserunt omnia; fasc. 46). Stutgardiae: In aedibus B.G. Teubneri.
~ *Dom.* --- M. Tullius Cicero & Peterson, W. (1910). *Orationes. Cum Senatui Gratias Egit, Cum Populo Gratias Egit, De Domo Sua, De Haruspicum Responso, Pro Sestio, In Vatinium, De Provinciis Consularibus, Pro Balbo* (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford: The Clarendon Press.
~ *Har. resp.* --- See *Dom.* for source text.
~ *Nat. D.* --- M. Tullius Cicero, Mayor, J. B., & Swainson, J. H. (2010). *De Natura Deorum Libri Tres* (Text of Book II. with Critical Notes. (pp. 1-64)). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
~ *Prov. cons.* --- See *Dom.* for source text.
~ *Rep.* --- M. Tullius Cicero & Powell, J.G.F. (2006). *De Re Publica, De Legibus, Cato Maior De Senectute, Laelius De Amicitia* (Scriptorum classicorum bibliotheca Oxoniensis). Oxford, New York: Oxford University Press.

So when I cited a section from one of the above it would be cited as e.g. “Cic. Har. resp. 23.48.”

All my *modern* sources on the other hand were cited with citeproc and managed from a bibtex file, so the footnote that contains the citation referenced above literally looks like this:

[^fn02_37]: Cic. *Har. resp.* 23.48. Further discussion in, for example: [@Nice1999 p.272; @Stevenson2015 p.74-75; @Osgood2009 p.330-331; @Sumi2009 p.171-172; @Szemler1971 p.130; @Bell1997 p.11; @Taylor2000 p.16].

It really annoys me to see a reference like, (Cicero 57 B.C.E. p.122). It’s not right, if you have an editor that insists otherwise, that editor is flat wrong.

regards

scot

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On 17 August 2019 at 03:18:09, Joseph Reagle (joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org) wrote:

I've seen a couple of bugs discussing ranges, multiples, negatives (BCE), and circa, but in playing with a minimal example, I can't figure out the correct format. Is there documentation on this?

I can get BCE to work with a negative 'year' integer.

But circa...

```
issued:
- year: 161
- circa: 1
```

puts a `-` after AD?

```
<li id="fn1" role="doc-endnote"><p>Marcus Aurelius, <em>Meditations</em>, ed. Maxwell Staniforth (London: Penguin Books, 161AD–).<a href="#fnref1" class="footnote-back" role="doc-backlink">↩︎</a></p></li>
```

No idea how to do a range or multiple specification. (I do use 'original-date''year', but chicago-fullnote-bibliography.csl doesn't seem to use that...)

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