Re: citeproc and "related" field

[Guido Milanese <guido.milanese-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Thank you. Indeed, the CSL variables for translation/reprint and the like
are the same of the old BibTeX files, now deprecated by the Biblatex
format. This new  format is much more practical, but I agree that a
conversion would be a bit heavy. A sort of pre-filter should read the
related entry, extract the needed data (e.g. title), add data with a new
label (e.g.  original-title), and reshape the cited item. Not difficult,
but a bit cumbersome. Do you think that a proposal would be worth
submitting?

Il giorno mar 20 ago 2019 alle ore 09:06 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss <
pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> ha scritto:

> To the best of my knowledge, CSL does not provide any mechanisms for
> dealing with relations between different items. (For example, that’s why
> pandoc-citeproc needs to pull all the data from a `crossref`ed item and
> fold it into the `crossref`ing item when translating from bibtex/biblatex
> to CSL JSON/YAML.)
>
> CSL-M has “`cs:alternative` to add supplementary reference information to
> a cited item, such as a translation or reprint” (
> https://citeproc-js.readthedocs.io/en/latest/csl-m/index.html#cs-alternative-extension),
> but even if we were to consider adding CSL-M extensions to pandoc-citeproc,
> we would still have to fold all the information from a number of different
> biblatex items (translation/reprint; orig. lang. version; earlier print; …)
> into one CSL JSON/YAML item.
>
> Anyone who sees this a unsatisfactory could of course submit a proposal
> for enhancing CSL itself (
> https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues).
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:17 AM, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
>
> > The question is whether CSL has any variables corresponding to
> > these things.
> >
> >
> http://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#standard-variables
> >
> > If so, we could try to be smarter about translating from
> > bibtex/biblatex to citeproc json. If not, then it's out of scope
> > for pandoc-citeproc.
> >
> > Guido Milanese guido.milanese-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org writes:
> >
> > > I am seriously experimenting pandoc filter "citeproc" as an interesting
> > > alternative to the workflow I am more used to, i.e. markdown to write
> and
> > > then compilation -- through pandoc -- as LaTeX + biber + Biblatex. I
> > > noticed that the filter supports the BibTeX "crossref" field (e.g. an
> > > article published in a volume of Proceedings) but not the "related"
> fields,
> > > such as "translationof", "multivolume" and the like. Is this feature
> > > planned? This would be a great advantage for those who save data in
> BibTeX
> > > format.
> > > Thank you. The pandoc "constellation" is incredibly useful and truly
> smart.
> > > guido (NW Italy)
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