Advice needed: producing tabs in Pandoc output

Advice needed: producing tabs in Pandoc output

[Boris Vassilev]

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Hello,

first let me apologize for being a pain with this issue. :(

I would like to put tab characters inside a <pre> tag in the HTML document
produced by Pandoc. I perfectly understand why this doesn't work in the way
I attempted it: see [this closed issue](
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2835).

Can anyone recommend a work-around? There are at least two possibilities I
could come up with (well, variations of the same really).

1. Replace tabs with an HTML tag of my choosing, say <actualtab>. Then,
after Pandoc, replace this tag with a tab character.

2. Replace tabs with a <span> with a class of my choosing, say <span
class="actualtab">. Then use CSS to tell the browser to treat it as a tab.

Motivation: I am using Pandoc for producing HTML (and eventually LaTeX)
from an input format that is a bit more complex than markdown. Pandoc is a
great choice because it treats embedded markup transparently. For example,
I cannot escape inside code blocks, but I can simply give Pandoc content in
a <pre> HTML tag and it comes out (mostly) untouched. Same goes for LaTeX
markup.

Any suggestions or comments are welcome, even if it goes along the lines of
"you are doing the wrong thing".

Cheers,
Boris


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Re: Advice needed: producing tabs in Pandoc output

[BPJ]

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Why do you want a literal tab inside a pre tag? What effect do you want to
achieve?Perhaps there is a workaround which will achieve the same effect.

BTW have you tried `	`?

/bpj


lördag 2 april 2016 skrev Boris Vassilev <boris.vassilev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:

> Hello,
>
> first let me apologize for being a pain with this issue. :(
>
> I would like to put tab characters inside a <pre> tag in the HTML document
> produced by Pandoc. I perfectly understand why this doesn't work in the way
> I attempted it: see [this closed issue](
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2835).
>
> Can anyone recommend a work-around? There are at least two possibilities I
> could come up with (well, variations of the same really).
>
> 1. Replace tabs with an HTML tag of my choosing, say <actualtab>. Then,
> after Pandoc, replace this tag with a tab character.
>
> 2. Replace tabs with a <span> with a class of my choosing, say <span
> class="actualtab">. Then use CSS to tell the browser to treat it as a tab.
>
> Motivation: I am using Pandoc for producing HTML (and eventually LaTeX)
> from an input format that is a bit more complex than markdown. Pandoc is a
> great choice because it treats embedded markup transparently. For example,
> I cannot escape inside code blocks, but I can simply give Pandoc content in
> a <pre> HTML tag and it comes out (mostly) untouched. Same goes for LaTeX
> markup.
>
> Any suggestions or comments are welcome, even if it goes along the lines
> of "you are doing the wrong thing".
>
> Cheers,
> Boris
>
>
> Currently in the EEST time zone: This is UTC +3:00
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Re: Advice needed: producing tabs in Pandoc output

[Boris Vassilev]

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Hello,

The `	` works if it is in normal markdown. Once you have it inside an 
HTML <pre> tag, it will get quoted properly so that we actually see "&#9;" 
and not a tab.

So say I use a command line tool, and I want to put the output in an HTML 
document that I generate with the help of Pandoc. If there are tabs in the 
output of the command, they will be messed up. I need a <pre> because I 
want to be able to put more HTML markup inside the <pre>, and this cannot 
be done with markdown.

The thing with tabs is, they are usually align at 8 columns. It is like 
this on terminals by default, it is like this when shown in a browser. Fun 
fact: if you do place a tab inside a <pre>, it will be aligned on 8 columns 
if you look at it in the browser, but it will be aligned at 4 if you look 
at the source (this is at least what Firefox does).

It was actually very easy to implement my first "solution": replace tabs 
with an HTML tag, then pass through Pandoc, then replace all occurrences of 
the tag with a tab. I still wonder if and how it could break.

Cheers

On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:12:46 PM UTC+3, BPJ wrote:
>
> Why do you want a literal tab inside a pre tag? What effect do you want to 
> achieve?Perhaps there is a workaround which will achieve the same effect.
>
> BTW have you tried `&#x09;`?
>
> /bpj
>
>
> lördag 2 april 2016 skrev Boris Vassilev <boris.v...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
> <javascript:>>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> first let me apologize for being a pain with this issue. :(
>>
>> I would like to put tab characters inside a <pre> tag in the HTML 
>> document produced by Pandoc. I perfectly understand why this doesn't work 
>> in the way I attempted it: see [this closed issue](
>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2835).
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a work-around? There are at least two possibilities 
>> I could come up with (well, variations of the same really).
>>
>> 1. Replace tabs with an HTML tag of my choosing, say <actualtab>. Then, 
>> after Pandoc, replace this tag with a tab character.
>>
>> 2. Replace tabs with a <span> with a class of my choosing, say <span 
>> class="actualtab">. Then use CSS to tell the browser to treat it as a tab.
>>
>> Motivation: I am using Pandoc for producing HTML (and eventually LaTeX) 
>> from an input format that is a bit more complex than markdown. Pandoc is a 
>> great choice because it treats embedded markup transparently. For example, 
>> I cannot escape inside code blocks, but I can simply give Pandoc content in 
>> a <pre> HTML tag and it comes out (mostly) untouched. Same goes for LaTeX 
>> markup.
>>
>> Any suggestions or comments are welcome, even if it goes along the lines 
>> of "you are doing the wrong thing".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Boris
>>
>>
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Re: Advice needed: producing tabs in Pandoc output

[John MACFARLANE]

Did you try using the --preserve-tabs option?

+++ Boris Vassilev [Apr 02 16 12:35 ]:
>   Hello,
>   The `	` works if it is in normal markdown. Once you have it inside
>   an HTML <pre> tag, it will get quoted properly so that we actually see
>   "&#9;" and not a tab.
>   So say I use a command line tool, and I want to put the output in an
>   HTML document that I generate with the help of Pandoc. If there are
>   tabs in the output of the command, they will be messed up. I need a
>   <pre> because I want to be able to put more HTML markup inside the
>   <pre>, and this cannot be done with markdown.
>   The thing with tabs is, they are usually align at 8 columns. It is like
>   this on terminals by default, it is like this when shown in a browser.
>   Fun fact: if you do place a tab inside a <pre>, it will be aligned on 8
>   columns if you look at it in the browser, but it will be aligned at 4
>   if you look at the source (this is at least what Firefox does).
>   It was actually very easy to implement my first "solution": replace
>   tabs with an HTML tag, then pass through Pandoc, then replace all
>   occurrences of the tag with a tab. I still wonder if and how it could
>   break.
>   Cheers
>   On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:12:46 PM UTC+3, BPJ wrote:
>
>     Why do you want a literal tab inside a pre tag? What effect do you
>     want to achieve?Perhaps there is a workaround which will achieve the
>     same effect.
>
>   BTW have you tried `&#x09;`?
>
>   /bpj
>
>   lördag 2 april 2016 skrev Boris Vassilev <[1]boris.v...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
>
>   Hello,
>   first let me apologize for being a pain with this issue. :(
>   I would like to put tab characters inside a <pre> tag in the HTML
>   document produced by Pandoc. I perfectly understand why this doesn't
>   work in the way I attempted it: see [this closed
>   issue]([2]https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2835).
>   Can anyone recommend a work-around? There are at least two
>   possibilities I could come up with (well, variations of the same
>   really).
>   1. Replace tabs with an HTML tag of my choosing, say <actualtab>. Then,
>   after Pandoc, replace this tag with a tab character.
>   2. Replace tabs with a <span> with a class of my choosing, say <span
>   class="actualtab">. Then use CSS to tell the browser to treat it as a
>   tab.
>   Motivation: I am using Pandoc for producing HTML (and eventually LaTeX)
>   from an input format that is a bit more complex than markdown. Pandoc
>   is a great choice because it treats embedded markup transparently. For
>   example, I cannot escape inside code blocks, but I can simply give
>   Pandoc content in a <pre> HTML tag and it comes out (mostly) untouched.
>   Same goes for LaTeX markup.
>   Any suggestions or comments are welcome, even if it goes along the
>   lines of "you are doing the wrong thing".
>   Cheers,
>   Boris
>   Currently in the EEST time zone: This is UTC +3:00
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Re: Advice needed: producing tabs in Pandoc output

[Boris Vassilev]

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This is embarrassing: together with --tab-stop it does everything one would
want to do with tabs. Sorry for not reading more carefully TFM, and thank
you yet again!

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:39 AM, John MACFARLANE <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Did you try using the --preserve-tabs option?
>
> +++ Boris Vassilev [Apr 02 16 12:35 ]:
>
>>   Hello,
>>   The `&#9;` works if it is in normal markdown. Once you have it inside
>>   an HTML <pre> tag, it will get quoted properly so that we actually see
>>   "&#9;" and not a tab.
>>   So say I use a command line tool, and I want to put the output in an
>>   HTML document that I generate with the help of Pandoc. If there are
>>   tabs in the output of the command, they will be messed up. I need a
>>   <pre> because I want to be able to put more HTML markup inside the
>>   <pre>, and this cannot be done with markdown.
>>   The thing with tabs is, they are usually align at 8 columns. It is like
>>   this on terminals by default, it is like this when shown in a browser.
>>   Fun fact: if you do place a tab inside a <pre>, it will be aligned on 8
>>   columns if you look at it in the browser, but it will be aligned at 4
>>   if you look at the source (this is at least what Firefox does).
>>   It was actually very easy to implement my first "solution": replace
>>   tabs with an HTML tag, then pass through Pandoc, then replace all
>>   occurrences of the tag with a tab. I still wonder if and how it could
>>   break.
>>   Cheers
>>   On Saturday, April 2, 2016 at 3:12:46 PM UTC+3, BPJ wrote:
>>
>>     Why do you want a literal tab inside a pre tag? What effect do you
>>     want to achieve?Perhaps there is a workaround which will achieve the
>>     same effect.
>>
>>   BTW have you tried `&#x09;`?
>>
>>   /bpj
>>
>>   lördag 2 april 2016 skrev Boris Vassilev <[1]boris.v...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
>>
>>   Hello,
>>   first let me apologize for being a pain with this issue. :(
>>   I would like to put tab characters inside a <pre> tag in the HTML
>>   document produced by Pandoc. I perfectly understand why this doesn't
>>   work in the way I attempted it: see [this closed
>>   issue]([2]https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2835).
>>   Can anyone recommend a work-around? There are at least two
>>   possibilities I could come up with (well, variations of the same
>>   really).
>>   1. Replace tabs with an HTML tag of my choosing, say <actualtab>. Then,
>>   after Pandoc, replace this tag with a tab character.
>>   2. Replace tabs with a <span> with a class of my choosing, say <span
>>   class="actualtab">. Then use CSS to tell the browser to treat it as a
>>   tab.
>>   Motivation: I am using Pandoc for producing HTML (and eventually LaTeX)
>>   from an input format that is a bit more complex than markdown. Pandoc
>>   is a great choice because it treats embedded markup transparently. For
>>   example, I cannot escape inside code blocks, but I can simply give
>>   Pandoc content in a <pre> HTML tag and it comes out (mostly) untouched.
>>   Same goes for LaTeX markup.
>>   Any suggestions or comments are welcome, even if it goes along the
>>   lines of "you are doing the wrong thing".
>>   Cheers,
>>   Boris
>>   Currently in the EEST time zone: This is UTC +3:00
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