document format similar to epub, but for articles

document format similar to epub, but for articles

[brainchild]

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An EPUB document encapsulates a package of medias into a single, 
distributable file, using HTML (in fact XHTML) to represent formatted 
textual content. By the design of the format, each document has the layout 
of a full book, complete with a table of contents and multiple chapters. 

For publications of a single article, EPUB is not an appropriate format.

Is any alternative format available, for article publications, that 
packages media files, but requires no table of contents or separation of 
content into chapters? 

As best I understand, no such format is in widespread use, and yet the 
ability would seem useful to distribute articles for display in readers of 
a design similar to current eBook readers.


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Re: document format similar to epub, but for articles

[Leonard Rosenthol]

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There have been some attempts at such a format but they have never caught
on.

EPUB *could* support such things, but as the members of the standards
committee have been and continue to be almost entirely commercial
publishers - it's only complete publications (books,magazines, manga, etc.)
that concerns them.

Perhaps that is one reason why many publications (esp. scientific) continue
to use PDF...

Leonard

On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:00 AM brainchild <ericlevy-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> An EPUB document encapsulates a package of medias into a single,
> distributable file, using HTML (in fact XHTML) to represent formatted
> textual content. By the design of the format, each document has the layout
> of a full book, complete with a table of contents and multiple chapters.
>
> For publications of a single article, EPUB is not an appropriate format.
>
> Is any alternative format available, for article publications, that
> packages media files, but requires no table of contents or separation of
> content into chapters?
>
> As best I understand, no such format is in widespread use, and yet the
> ability would seem useful to distribute articles for display in readers of
> a design similar to current eBook readers.
>
>
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Re: document format similar to epub, but for articles

[Julien Dutant]

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Cultural Anthropology (https://journal.culanth.org/, open access) publishes 
single articles as EPUB and they look ok. Their solution is to make them as 
a one-chapter book. That way the article isn't chopped up into 'chapters'. 
The only downside is that the table of contents repeats the title as 
chapter title and lists the sections as sub-parts of that single chapter. 
Agreed that it's not perfect: you would not repeat the article title and 
only have the sections, or no table of contents at all (though the ability 
to jump to sections is nice). But it's usable.

Perhaps there's even a solution to that: if EPUB allows you to have a 
shortened title in the table of contents, perhaps you can make the unique 
chapter title empty or a non-breakable space? 

On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 12:49:32 PM UTC Leonard Rosenthol wrote:

> There have been some attempts at such a format but they have never caught 
> on.
>
> EPUB *could* support such things, but as the members of the standards 
> committee have been and continue to be almost entirely commercial 
> publishers - it's only complete publications (books,magazines, manga, etc.) 
> that concerns them.
>
> Perhaps that is one reason why many publications (esp. scientific) 
> continue to use PDF...
>
> Leonard
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:00 AM brainchild <eric...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> An EPUB document encapsulates a package of medias into a single, 
>> distributable file, using HTML (in fact XHTML) to represent formatted 
>> textual content. By the design of the format, each document has the layout 
>> of a full book, complete with a table of contents and multiple chapters. 
>>
>> For publications of a single article, EPUB is not an appropriate format.
>>
>> Is any alternative format available, for article publications, that 
>> packages media files, but requires no table of contents or separation of 
>> content into chapters? 
>>
>> As best I understand, no such format is in widespread use, and yet the 
>> ability would seem useful to distribute articles for display in readers of 
>> a design similar to current eBook readers.
>>
>>
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>>
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Re: document format similar to epub, but for articles

[Dyspeptic Curmudgeon]

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As far as I can tell, pandoc creates the Table of Contents from the css
coding, using <h1> and <h2> tagging (at least in html). If you remove those
tags then no pandoc ToC is created. I use that route and create the ToC out
of the file contents. If you want/need large fonts which would normally be
coupled attributes of the <h1> or<h2> tags, duplicate the attribute in a
css file, and point pandoc to it on the command line:  pandoc --quiet
--standalone --css ../epub.css -f HTML -t epub3  .... etc.
Works for me.

On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 15:30, Julien Dutant <julien.dutant-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Cultural Anthropology (https://journal.culanth.org/, open access)
> publishes single articles as EPUB and they look ok. Their solution is to
> make them as a one-chapter book. That way the article isn't chopped up into
> 'chapters'. The only downside is that the table of contents repeats the
> title as chapter title and lists the sections as sub-parts of that single
> chapter. Agreed that it's not perfect: you would not repeat the article
> title and only have the sections, or no table of contents at all (though
> the ability to jump to sections is nice). But it's usable.
>
> Perhaps there's even a solution to that: if EPUB allows you to have a
> shortened title in the table of contents, perhaps you can make the unique
> chapter title empty or a non-breakable space?
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 12:49:32 PM UTC Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>
>> There have been some attempts at such a format but they have never caught
>> on.
>>
>> EPUB *could* support such things, but as the members of the standards
>> committee have been and continue to be almost entirely commercial
>> publishers - it's only complete publications (books,magazines, manga, etc.)
>> that concerns them.
>>
>> Perhaps that is one reason why many publications (esp. scientific)
>> continue to use PDF...
>>
>> Leonard
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:00 AM brainchild <eric...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> An EPUB document encapsulates a package of medias into a single,
>>> distributable file, using HTML (in fact XHTML) to represent formatted
>>> textual content. By the design of the format, each document has the layout
>>> of a full book, complete with a table of contents and multiple chapters.
>>>
>>> For publications of a single article, EPUB is not an appropriate format.
>>>
>>> Is any alternative format available, for article publications, that
>>> packages media files, but requires no table of contents or separation of
>>> content into chapters?
>>>
>>> As best I understand, no such format is in widespread use, and yet the
>>> ability would seem useful to distribute articles for display in readers of
>>> a design similar to current eBook readers.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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