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When I wrote it for the first time, Theorem {#id} did not work, and that was fairly confusing to me... Also, this update can be helpful towards adding an attribute to all markdown elements. https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/684 Best, Chao Xu On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:55 AM mb21 wrote: > I agree that the proposed variant looks nicer. However, it adds yet > another way to do the same thing, which may lead to confusion (and may make > learning pandoc markdown harder). Another question is whether fenced code > blocks would then have to support that style as well... > > > On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 5:55:27 PM UTC+2, Chao Xu wrote: >> >> Does it make sense to make them mutually exclusive? >> >> The syntax is identical to the `header_attributes` extension. Except for >> that string in front is the class name instead of the header. >> However, it still makes sense, because often the class name itself acts >> as a header for a div. (warning, theorem, remark, etc) >> >> I'm suggesting making an enhancement, allowing the one I showed in the >> email. >> >> Best, >> Chao Xu >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 9:16 AM BP Jonsson wrote: >> >>> The two styles, a *single* class without braces or CSS-like attributes >>> in braces, are mutually exclusive, i.e. you can use one or the other on any >>> given block but you can't mix them on the same block, so if you want both a >>> class and an id you must use {#id .class} >>> >>> Den tis 25 juni 2019 23:12Chao Xu skrev: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> What should be the desired behavior for the following code in Pandoc >>>> Markdown? >>>> >>>> ::: Theorem {#id} >>>> This is a theorem. >>>> ::: >>>> >>>> Knowing both::: Theorem and ::: {.Theorem #id} exists, I would expect >>>> it behaves as >>>> >>>> ::: {.Theorem #id} >>>> This is a theorem. >>>> ::: >>>> >>>> But that is not true. The HTML output is. >>>> >>>>

::: Theorem {#id} This is a theorem. :::

>>>> >>>> >>>> Of course, as the current pandoc markdown states: >>>> > As with fenced code blocks, one can use either attributes in curly >>>> braces or a single unbraced word, which will be treated as a class name. >>>> >>>> But I do believe what I suggest is more reasonable, especially most of >>>> the time there are no additional attributes except the class name. >>>> >>>> I've raised the issue here. >>>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/5611 >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Chao Xu >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>>> To post to this group, send email to pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/7ed7a801-1691-4285-9ad5-56945a90558a%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/2NWx-P7p7P4/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> To post to this group, send email to pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAFC_yuSJDq9oNEP2Ka4bs3dhTQRMqD-JfpMsfNjnJpqALnW1Ug%40mail.gmail.com >>> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/2NWx-P7p7P4/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/8e050d22-4d80-45c9-b5c8-74dbb263da11%40googlegroups.com > > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAJQg2_35kSAh3ooTEOuT0nmqW1PJurM1mSsbgFeTkj1njvLsxQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --00000000000071dd80058c8e38b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If it is more intuitive, then it is less confusing.
When I wrote it for the first time,=C2=A0Theorem {#id} did not work, and that was fairly confusing to me...=

Also, thi= s update can be helpful towards adding an attribute to all markdown element= s.=C2=A0

Best,
Chao Xu

<= br>
On Fri,= Jun 28, 2019 at 1:55 AM mb21 <mauro.bieg-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I agree that the prop= osed variant looks nicer. However, it adds yet another way to do the same t= hing, which may lead to confusion (and may make learning pandoc markdown ha= rder). Another question is whether fenced code blocks would then have to su= pport that style as well...


On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 5:55= :27 PM UTC+2, Chao Xu wrote:
Does it make sense to make them mutually exclusive?
The syntax is identical to the `header_attributes` ext= ension. Except for that string in front is the class name instead of the he= ader.
However, it still makes sense, because often the class name= itself acts as a header for a div.=C2=A0 (warning, theorem, remark, etc)

I'm suggesting making an enhancement, allowing = the one I showed in the email.=C2=A0

Best,
Chao Xu


On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 9:16 AM BP Jo= nsson <bpjo...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
The two st= yles, a *single* class without braces or CSS-like attributes in braces, are= mutually exclusive, i.e. you can use one or the other on any given block b= ut you can't mix them on the same block, so if you want both a class an= d an id you must use {#id .class}

Den tis 25 juni 2019 23:12Chao Xu <mgc..= .@gmail.com> skrev:
Hi all,

What should be the d= esired behavior for the following code in Pandoc Markdown?

::: Theorem {#id}
This is a theorem.=
:::=C2=A0

Knowing both:::= Theorem=C2=A0and=C2=A0::: {.Theorem=C2=A0#id} exists= , I would expect it behaves as

::: {.Theorem #id}
This is a theorem.
:::=C2=A0

But that is not true. The HTML output is.

<p>::: Theorem {#id} This is a theore= m. :::</p>


Of cour= se, as the current pandoc markdown states:
> As with fenced co= de blocks, one can use either attributes in curly braces or a single unbrac= ed word, which will be treated as a class name.

But I do believe what I suggest is more reasonable, especially most of th= e time there are no additional attributes except the class name.
=
I've raised the issue here.

Best= ,
Chao Xu

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