* extended title block in pandoc's markdown
@ 2012-11-11 17:47 Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2012-11-11 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
Hi John,
the extended markdown format enables three fields for metadata:
% title
% author (authors separated by semicolons)
% date
I think it will be extremely helpful for users to be able to add two
additional fields for metadata:
% language
% rights
Language should be also passed to any <html> element generated from the
source document.
With these two further elements, the need of having to invoke a
metadata.xml file for ePub or HTML documents is greatly reduced.
I have also a suggestion for distinguishing title and subtitle as
different fields. English uses colon to separate title from subtitle
(such as “German Expressionism: An Introduction”), but this is the
exception to the general rule, such as German, French, Italian or Spanish.
Title and subtitle could be distinguished in the following way:
% title
: subtitle
Except in English, this isn't the same as
% title: subtitle
because «La cuestión del título: distinciones» would be only a title in
Spanish (to be distinguished that title should read: «La cuestión del
título. Distinciones»).
Being able to distinguish title and subtitle is also important for the
automatic generation of cover page of ePub files.
Would you be so kind to consider the improvement suggestions for
extended pandoc?
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: extended title block in pandoc's markdown [not found] ` <509FE49D.7040803-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-11-11 18:11 ` Gwern Branwen 2012-11-11 19:35 ` Pablo Rodríguez 2012-11-12 12:51 ` Joseph Reagle 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Gwern Branwen @ 2012-11-11 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Pablo Rodríguez <oinos-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> wrote: > I think it will be extremely helpful for users to be able to add two > additional fields for metadata: > > % language > % rights And I think it would be very useful to have metadata fields for tags, description, split date into 'created' and 'last-modified' fields, and also include a progress or version field to specify how finished something is. They haven't made it in either. -- gwern http://www.gwern.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: extended title block in pandoc's markdown 2012-11-11 18:11 ` Gwern Branwen @ 2012-11-11 19:35 ` Pablo Rodríguez [not found] ` <509FFE0A.1070107-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2012-11-11 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw On 11/11/12 19:11, Gwern Branwen wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Pablo Rodríguez <oinos-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> I think it will be extremely helpful for users to be able to add two >> additional fields for metadata: >> >> % language >> % rights > > And I think it would be very useful to have metadata fields for tags, > description, split date into 'created' and 'last-modified' fields, and > also include a progress or version field to specify how finished > something is. Language and rights can be applied to HTML, ePub, ConTeXt and LaTeX. Tags could be also applied to all this formats, but as far as I know the other fields you suggested aren't. In that case, maybe the metadata should be inserted in the document in a different way (something like ".metadata:" at the beginning of the document). Just in case it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: extended title block in pandoc's markdown [not found] ` <509FFE0A.1070107-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-11-11 20:09 ` Gwern Branwen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Gwern Branwen @ 2012-11-11 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Pablo Rodríguez <oinos-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> wrote: > Language and rights can be applied to HTML, ePub, ConTeXt and LaTeX. > Tags could be also applied to all this formats, but as far as I know the > other fields you suggested aren't. All of my suggestions have Dublin Core definitions or support and indeed that is how I use them in HTML; I would be extremely surprised if LaTeX/ConTeXt (!) didn't support at least as rich metadata, and a little surprised if ePub didn't (targeted as it is at publishers with complex metadata needs). -- gwern http://www.gwern.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: extended title block in pandoc's markdown [not found] ` <509FE49D.7040803-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> 2012-11-11 18:11 ` Gwern Branwen @ 2012-11-12 12:51 ` Joseph Reagle [not found] ` <50A0F0E2.8020803-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Joseph Reagle @ 2012-11-12 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Pablo Rodríguez; +Cc: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw On 11/11/2012 12:47 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: > I have also a suggestion for distinguishing title and subtitle as > different fields. English uses colon to separate title from subtitle > (such as “German Expressionism: An Introduction”), but this is the > exception to the general rule, such as German, French, Italian or Spanish. John has noted that a future version will soon support arbitrary multimarkdown/colon metdata at the beginning of the document -- most of which will be ignored by pandoc. I'm really looking forward to this as I will be to include "build" options within the document itself (e.g., use a particular bibliographic stylesheet) that are used by my pandoc wrappers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: extended title block in pandoc's markdown [not found] ` <50A0F0E2.8020803-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2012-11-12 13:03 ` Dennis Groves 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Dennis Groves @ 2012-11-12 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2376 bytes --] I just want to be able to <include> period. eg. % headers mybook include frontmatter generate toc include ch01 include ch02 .... -- Dennis Groves <http://about.me/dennis.groves>, MSc dennis.groves-XMlG2BY2VvLYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org <http://www.owasp.org/> *This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported License. To view a copy of this license, visit http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ or send a letter to Creative Commons, 444 Castro Street, Suite 900, Mountain View, California, 94041, USA.* On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>wrote: > On 11/11/2012 12:47 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote: > >> I have also a suggestion for distinguishing title and subtitle as >> different fields. English uses colon to separate title from subtitle >> (such as “German Expressionism: An Introduction”), but this is the >> exception to the general rule, such as German, French, Italian or Spanish. >> > > John has noted that a future version will soon support arbitrary > multimarkdown/colon metdata at the beginning of the document -- most of > which will be ignored by pandoc. I'm really looking forward to this as I > will be to include "build" options within the document itself (e.g., use a > particular bibliographic stylesheet) that are used by my pandoc wrappers. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss@googlegroups.**com<pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@* > *googlegroups.com <pandoc-discuss%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4581 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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