Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[A A]

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Hello,

I have the following markdown:

![Data binding button default
conversion](data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)

I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown source to
keep everything clean and organized. So I tried that:

![Data binding button default conversion]
 (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
 (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)

Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the above as an Image
in the AST but rather just a string of text.

How can I break up a long image description into multiple lines without
compromising the markdown?

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,

Amine Aboufirass

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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[Bastien DUMONT]

Thus (but it is not so pretty):

![Data binding button default conversion](
 data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
 ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}

(Beware the curly brackets for the classes and attributes.)

Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I have the following markdown:
> 
> ![Data binding button default conversion](data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
> 
> I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown source to keep
> everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
> 
> ![Data binding button default conversion]
>  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
>  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
> 
> Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the above as an Image in
> the AST but rather just a string of text.
> 
> How can I break up a long image description into multiple lines without
> compromising the markdown?
> 
> Thanks for your consideration.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Amine Aboufirass
> 
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

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It works. Thanks.

On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> Thus (but it is not so pretty):
>
> ![Data binding button default conversion](
>  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
>  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
>
> (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and attributes.)
>
> Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have the following markdown:
> >
> > ![Data binding button default
> conversion](data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
> >
> > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown source to
> keep
> > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
> >
> > ![Data binding button default conversion]
> >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
> >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
> >
> > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the above as an
> Image in
> > the AST but rather just a string of text.
> >
> > How can I break up a long image description into multiple lines without
> > compromising the markdown?
> >
> > Thanks for your consideration.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Amine Aboufirass
> >
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[A A]

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Hello,

I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going from

`veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile`

to

`veryLongClassNameWhichShoul
dBreakALineInOutputFile`

Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output, something
which I do not want.

Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without compromising the
output?

Regards,

Amine

On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:54, A A <amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> It works. Thanks.
>
> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Thus (but it is not so pretty):
>>
>> ![Data binding button default conversion](
>>  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
>>  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
>>
>> (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and attributes.)
>>
>> Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have the following markdown:
>> >
>> > ![Data binding button default
>> conversion](data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>> >
>> > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown source to
>> keep
>> > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
>> >
>> > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>> >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
>> >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>> >
>> > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the above as an
>> Image in
>> > the AST but rather just a string of text.
>> >
>> > How can I break up a long image description into multiple lines without
>> > compromising the markdown?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your consideration.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Amine Aboufirass
>> >
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

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You can always break the line before and after the code span. Do you really
have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are longer than ca
70-80 characters, or very short lines? In such a case I would express
things differently so that I can use a code block. Or is it in a table? You
can use code blocks in a grid table.

Den fre 23 sep. 2022 15:42A A <amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> Hello,
>
> I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going from
>
> `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile`
>
> to
>
> `veryLongClassNameWhichShoul
> dBreakALineInOutputFile`
>
> Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output, something
> which I do not want.
>
> Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without compromising the
> output?
>
> Regards,
>
> Amine
>
> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:54, A A <amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> It works. Thanks.
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thus (but it is not so pretty):
>>>
>>> ![Data binding button default conversion](
>>>  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
>>>  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
>>>
>>> (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and attributes.)
>>>
>>> Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I have the following markdown:
>>> >
>>> > ![Data binding button default
>>> conversion](data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>>> >
>>> > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown source
>>> to keep
>>> > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
>>> >
>>> > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>>> >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
>>> >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the above as an
>>> Image in
>>> > the AST but rather just a string of text.
>>> >
>>> > How can I break up a long image description into multiple lines without
>>> > compromising the markdown?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for your consideration.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Amine Aboufirass
>>> >
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

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You can always break the line before and after the code span.

I’m aware of that. My question is about how I can break the line *within*
the code span.

Do you really have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are
longer than ca 70-80 characters

I just happen to be using 78 characters as maximum column count in my
source file in Vim. Different situations arise where the inline code needs
to be broken up into multiple lines. Long file paths, inline code that
occurs at the end of a line, long class names or commands exceeding 78
characters, you name it.

In such a case I would express things differently so that I can use a code
block

I don’t like that reasoning at all. Long inline code can and will occur in
a variety of use cases. Just because one can circumvent the problem by
replacing with a code block doesn’t mean they should. Please trust that for
the purposes of my question I really *do* need inline code and really *do*
need to break it up at the end of a line.

I would be very surprised if this wasn't supported in the current
implementation of Pandoc's Markdown.



On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 16:40, BPJ <bpj-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> You can always break the line before and after the code span. Do you
> really have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are longer than
> ca 70-80 characters, or very short lines? In such a case I would express
> things differently so that I can use a code block. Or is it in a table? You
> can use code blocks in a grid table.
>
> Den fre 23 sep. 2022 15:42A A <amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going from
>>
>> `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile`
>>
>> to
>>
>> `veryLongClassNameWhichShoul
>> dBreakALineInOutputFile`
>>
>> Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output, something
>> which I do not want.
>>
>> Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without compromising
>> the output?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amine
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:54, A A <amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> It works. Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.orgt>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thus (but it is not so pretty):
>>>>
>>>> ![Data binding button default conversion](
>>>>  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
>>>>  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
>>>>
>>>> (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and attributes.)
>>>>
>>>> Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > I have the following markdown:
>>>> >
>>>> > ![Data binding button default
>>>> conversion](data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>>>> >
>>>> > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown source
>>>> to keep
>>>> > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
>>>> >
>>>> > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>>>> >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
>>>> >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>>>> >
>>>> > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the above as an
>>>> Image in
>>>> > the AST but rather just a string of text.
>>>> >
>>>> > How can I break up a long image description into multiple lines
>>>> without
>>>> > compromising the markdown?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for your consideration.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > Amine Aboufirass
>>>> >
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>>>> >
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[Bastien DUMONT]

Would splitting the inline code in two inlines be acceptable for you?
`veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreak`\
`ALineInOutputFile`.

Le Monday 26 September 2022 à 02:44:32PM, A A a écrit :
>     You can always break the line before and after the code span.
> 
> I’m aware of that. My question is about how I can break the line within the
> code span.
> 
>     Do you really have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are
>     longer than ca 70-80 characters
> 
> I just happen to be using 78 characters as maximum column count in my source
> file in Vim. Different situations arise where the inline code needs to be
> broken up into multiple lines. Long file paths, inline code that occurs at the
> end of a line, long class names or commands exceeding 78 characters, you name
> it.
> 
>     In such a case I would express things differently so that I can use a code
>     block
> 
> I don’t like that reasoning at all. Long inline code can and will occur in a
> variety of use cases. Just because one can circumvent the problem by replacing
> with a code block doesn’t mean they should. Please trust that for the purposes
> of my question I really do need inline code and really do need to break it up
> at the end of a line.
> 
> I would be very surprised if this wasn't supported in the current
> implementation of Pandoc's Markdown.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 16:40, BPJ <[1]bpj-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>     You can always break the line before and after the code span. Do you really
>     have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are longer than ca
>     70-80 characters, or very short lines? In such a case I would express
>     things differently so that I can use a code block. Or is it in a table? You
>     can use code blocks in a grid table.
> 
>     Den fre 23 sep. 2022 15:42A A <[2]amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> 
> 
>         Hello,
> 
>         I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going from
> 
>         `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile`
> 
>         to
> 
>         `veryLongClassNameWhichShoul
>         dBreakALineInOutputFile`
> 
>         Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output,
>         something which I do not want.
> 
>         Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without compromising
>         the output?
> 
>         Regards,
> 
>         Amine
> 
> 
>         On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:54, A A <[3]amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>         wrote:
> 
>             It works. Thanks.
> 
>             On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <[4]
>             bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
>                 Thus (but it is not so pretty):
> 
>                 ![Data binding button default conversion](
>                  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
>                  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
> 
>                 (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and attributes.)
> 
>                 Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
>                 > Hello,
>                 >
>                 > I have the following markdown:
>                 >
>                 > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>                 (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#
>                 fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>                 >
>                 > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the markdown
>                 source to keep
>                 > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
>                 >
>                 > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>                 >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
>                 >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>                 >
>                 > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize the
>                 above as an Image in
>                 > the AST but rather just a string of text.
>                 >
>                 > How can I break up a long image description into multiple
>                 lines without
>                 > compromising the markdown?
>                 >
>                 > Thanks for your consideration.
>                 >
>                 > Regards,
>                 >
>                 > Amine Aboufirass
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

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To Bastien:

Would splitting the inline code in two inlines be acceptable for you?

No, because a new line in the source won’t necessarily coincide with a new
line in the rendered output.
To Daniel:

You want to soft-wrap text that is longer than a specified length, not hard
wrap it.

I disagree. Most programming and markup languages typically have strict
conventions for *hard* wrapping. The reason for this is quite simple, as
you mention yourself, soft wrapping is viewer dependent, and hard wrapping
is not.

My one thought on that would be to put in some zero-width spaces at
acceptable wrapping points.

Interesting, how can I do that in Vim?


On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 15:26, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> Would splitting the inline code in two inlines be acceptable for you?
> `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreak`\
> `ALineInOutputFile`.
>
> Le Monday 26 September 2022 à 02:44:32PM, A A a écrit :
> >     You can always break the line before and after the code span.
> >
> > I’m aware of that. My question is about how I can break the line within
> the
> > code span.
> >
> >     Do you really have inline code spans, let alone class names, which
> are
> >     longer than ca 70-80 characters
> >
> > I just happen to be using 78 characters as maximum column count in my
> source
> > file in Vim. Different situations arise where the inline code needs to be
> > broken up into multiple lines. Long file paths, inline code that occurs
> at the
> > end of a line, long class names or commands exceeding 78 characters, you
> name
> > it.
> >
> >     In such a case I would express things differently so that I can use
> a code
> >     block
> >
> > I don’t like that reasoning at all. Long inline code can and will occur
> in a
> > variety of use cases. Just because one can circumvent the problem by
> replacing
> > with a code block doesn’t mean they should. Please trust that for the
> purposes
> > of my question I really do need inline code and really do need to break
> it up
> > at the end of a line.
> >
> > I would be very surprised if this wasn't supported in the current
> > implementation of Pandoc's Markdown.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 16:40, BPJ <[1]bpj-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >     You can always break the line before and after the code span. Do you
> really
> >     have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are longer than
> ca
> >     70-80 characters, or very short lines? In such a case I would express
> >     things differently so that I can use a code block. Or is it in a
> table? You
> >     can use code blocks in a grid table.
> >
> >     Den fre 23 sep. 2022 15:42A A <[2]amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> >
> >
> >         Hello,
> >
> >         I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going
> from
> >
> >         `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile`
> >
> >         to
> >
> >         `veryLongClassNameWhichShoul
> >         dBreakALineInOutputFile`
> >
> >         Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output,
> >         something which I do not want.
> >
> >         Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without
> compromising
> >         the output?
> >
> >         Regards,
> >
> >         Amine
> >
> >
> >         On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:54, A A <[3]
> amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >         wrote:
> >
> >             It works. Thanks.
> >
> >             On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <[4]
> >             bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >                 Thus (but it is not so pretty):
> >
> >                 ![Data binding button default conversion](
> >                  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
> >                  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
> >
> >                 (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and
> attributes.)
> >
> >                 Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
> >                 > Hello,
> >                 >
> >                 > I have the following markdown:
> >                 >
> >                 > ![Data binding button default conversion]
> >                 (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#
> >                 fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
> >                 >
> >                 > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the
> markdown
> >                 source to keep
> >                 > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
> >                 >
> >                 > ![Data binding button default conversion]
> >                 >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
> >                 >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
> >                 >
> >                 > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize
> the
> >                 above as an Image in
> >                 > the AST but rather just a string of text.
> >                 >
> >                 > How can I break up a long image description into
> multiple
> >                 lines without
> >                 > compromising the markdown?
> >                 >
> >                 > Thanks for your consideration.
> >                 >
> >                 > Regards,
> >                 >
> >                 > Amine Aboufirass
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[Bastien DUMONT]

So you want the inline to be hard-wrapped in the input md file, but not necessarily in the output, the only problem being that Pandoc converts the newline as a space in the output file? I fear that you have to use a filter suppressing all SoftBreaks between RawInlines in the AST, so that you could use the following syntax:

`veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreak`
`ALineInOutputFile`

You could also restrict this behaviour to some spans:

[`veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreak`
`ALineInOutputFile`]{.nospace}

In that case, you could also remove all spaces from RawInlines inside some spans, removing the need to split the RawInline in two objects:

[`veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreak
ALineInOutputFile`]{.nospace}

However, given the sample class name you provide, I am not sure to understand your intent correctly.

Le Tuesday 27 September 2022 à 09:34:15AM, A A a écrit :
> To Bastien:
> 
>     Would splitting the inline code in two inlines be acceptable for you?
> 
> No, because a new line in the source won’t necessarily coincide with a new line
> in the rendered output.
> 
> To Daniel:
> 
>     You want to soft-wrap text that is longer than a specified length, not hard
>     wrap it.
> 
> I disagree. Most programming and markup languages typically have strict
> conventions for hard wrapping. The reason for this is quite simple, as you
> mention yourself, soft wrapping is viewer dependent, and hard wrapping is not.
> 
>     My one thought on that would be to put in some zero-width spaces at
>     acceptable wrapping points.
> 
> Interesting, how can I do that in Vim?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 15:26, Bastien DUMONT <[1]bastien.dumont@posteo.net>
> wrote:
> 
>     Would splitting the inline code in two inlines be acceptable for you?
>     `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreak`\
>     `ALineInOutputFile`.
> 
>     Le Monday 26 September 2022 à 02:44:32PM, A A a écrit :
>     >     You can always break the line before and after the code span.
>     >
>     > I’m aware of that. My question is about how I can break the line within
>     the
>     > code span.
>     >
>     >     Do you really have inline code spans, let alone class names, which
>     are
>     >     longer than ca 70-80 characters
>     >
>     > I just happen to be using 78 characters as maximum column count in my
>     source
>     > file in Vim. Different situations arise where the inline code needs to be
>     > broken up into multiple lines. Long file paths, inline code that occurs
>     at the
>     > end of a line, long class names or commands exceeding 78 characters, you
>     name
>     > it.
>     >
>     >     In such a case I would express things differently so that I can use a
>     code
>     >     block
>     >
>     > I don’t like that reasoning at all. Long inline code can and will occur
>     in a
>     > variety of use cases. Just because one can circumvent the problem by
>     replacing
>     > with a code block doesn’t mean they should. Please trust that for the
>     purposes
>     > of my question I really do need inline code and really do need to break
>     it up
>     > at the end of a line.
>     >
>     > I would be very surprised if this wasn't supported in the current
>     > implementation of Pandoc's Markdown.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 16:40, BPJ <[1][2]bpj-J3H7GcXPSITLoDKTGw+V6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>     >
>     >     You can always break the line before and after the code span. Do you
>     really
>     >     have inline code spans, let alone class names, which are longer than
>     ca
>     >     70-80 characters, or very short lines? In such a case I would express
>     >     things differently so that I can use a code block. Or is it in a
>     table? You
>     >     can use code blocks in a grid table.
>     >
>     >     Den fre 23 sep. 2022 15:42A A <[2][3]amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>     skrev:
>     >
>     >
>     >         Hello,
>     >
>     >         I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going
>     from
>     >
>     >         `veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile`
>     >
>     >         to
>     >
>     >         `veryLongClassNameWhichShoul
>     >         dBreakALineInOutputFile`
>     >
>     >         Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output,
>     >         something which I do not want.
>     >
>     >         Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without
>     compromising
>     >         the output?
>     >
>     >         Regards,
>     >
>     >         Amine
>     >
>     >
>     >         On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:54, A A <[3][4]
>     amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>     >         wrote:
>     >
>     >             It works. Thanks.
>     >
>     >             On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 12:23, Bastien DUMONT <[4]
>     >             [5]bastien.dumont@posteo.net> wrote:
>     >
>     >                 Thus (but it is not so pretty):
>     >
>     >                 ![Data binding button default conversion](
>     >                  data-binding-button-default-conversion.png
>     >                  ){#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion}
>     >
>     >                 (Beware the curly brackets for the classes and
>     attributes.)
>     >
>     >                 Le Friday 23 September 2022 à 11:52:00AM, A A a écrit :
>     >                 > Hello,
>     >                 >
>     >                 > I have the following markdown:
>     >                 >
>     >                 > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>     >                 (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)(#
>     >                 fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>     >                 >
>     >                 > I’d like to break this up into multiple lines in the
>     markdown
>     >                 source to keep
>     >                 > everything clean and organized. So I tried that:
>     >                 >
>     >                 > ![Data binding button default conversion]
>     >                 >  (data-binding-button-default-conversion.png)
>     >                 >  (#fig:data-binding-button-default-conversion)
>     >                 >
>     >                 > Unfortunately it looks like Pandoc doesn’t recognize
>     the
>     >                 above as an Image in
>     >                 > the AST but rather just a string of text.
>     >                 >
>     >                 > How can I break up a long image description into
>     multiple
>     >                 lines without
>     >                 > compromising the markdown?
>     >                 >
>     >                 > Thanks for your consideration.
>     >                 >
>     >                 > Regards,
>     >                 >
>     >                 > Amine Aboufirass
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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[Daniel Staal]

On 9/27/22 5:34 AM, A A wrote:
 >
>     My one thought on that would be to put in some zero-width spaces at
>     acceptable wrapping points.
> 
> Interesting, how can I do that in Vim?

Note I have not done this myself: Looks like the basic way is to enter 
it using using CTRL-V and the Unicode hex code 0x200B.  If you want to 
make it easier you'd want to create a digraph.

http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/digraph.html
https://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/insert.html#i_CTRL-V

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Re: Breaking up image description into multiple lines in source file

[Daniel Staal]

On 9/23/22 9:41 AM, A A wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I’d like to do the same for inline code. I’ve found that going from
> 
> |`veryLongClassNameWhichShouldBreakALineInOutputFile` |
> 
> to
> 
> |`veryLongClassNameWhichShoul dBreakALineInOutputFile` |
> 
> Will actually introduce a space at the linebreak in the output, 
> something which I do not want.
> 
> Any ideas on how to break up long lines like that without compromising 
> the output?

My one thought on that would be to put in some zero-width spaces at 
acceptable wrapping points.

However note that if someone were to copy-paste the output they'll have 
invisible character(s) that wouldn't really be part of the inline code.

Really, this isn't a Pandoc problem - it's a viewer issue.  You want to 
soft-wrap text that is longer than a specified length, not hard wrap it. 
  Some viewers will do that, some won't, some will only soft-wrap on 
spaces.  Pandoc will hard-wrap, but as it's not a viewer soft-wrapping 
isn't even something that applies to it.

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