From: "T. Kurt Bond" <tkurtbond-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Turn off headers for Mac OS clipboard content output in HTML?
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:38:00 -0500 [thread overview]
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That makes sense; remember, without -s (standalone) pandoc outputs
fragments. I suspect what you need to do is specify -s while also
specifying an HTML template that includes the doctype and head information
that you want. If all you care about is the CSS, you might try specifying
it with --css.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:32 AM philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org <philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> The trouble with using -r html or -f html is that this strips out the
> <head> element, so I lose the formatting.
>
> That is, if I apply pandoc -r html -t html+smart to this:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
> <html>
> <head>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">
> <title></title>
> <meta name="Generator" content="Cocoa HTML Writer">
> <meta name="CocoaVersion" content="2113">
> <style type="text/css">
> p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 16.0px Arial; color: #151515;
> -webkit-text-stroke: #151515; background-color: #d5e4ff}
> span.s1 {font-kerning: none}
> span.s2 {font: 16.0px Courier; font-kerning: none; background-color:
> #f1f1f1}
> </style>
> </head>
> <body>
> <p class="p1"><span class="s1">Font names that have more than one word —
> like </span><span class="s2">Trebuchet MS</span><span class="s1"> — need to
> be surrounded by quotes, for example </span><span class="s2">"Trebuchet
> MS"</span><span class="s1">.</span></p>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> The outcome is just:
>
> <p><span class="s1">Font names that have more than one word — like
> </span><span class="s2">Trebuchet MS</span><span class="s1"> — need to be
> surrounded by quotes, for example </span><span class="s2">"Trebuchet
> MS"</span><span class="s1">.</span></p>
>
> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 11:26:40 AM UTC-5 tkur...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> wrote:
>
>> If you don't specify an input format, pandoc assumes markdown input, and
>> while markdown allows literal inclusions of HTML elements, it apparently
>> doesn't allow DOCTYPE declarations, so it does not consider that to be
>> HTML, and translates the angle brackets into character entities.
>>
>> $ echo '<!DOCTYPE html><ol><li>Bogus</li></ol>' | pandoc -t html
>> <!DOCTYPE html>
>> <ol>
>> <li>
>> Bogus
>> </li>
>> </ol>
>>
>> However, if you add "-r html" everything is fine:
>>
>> $ echo '<!DOCTYPE html><ol><li>Bogus</li></ol>' | pandoc -r html -t html
>> <ol>
>> <li>Bogus</li>
>> </ol>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 11:19 AM phi...-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org <phi...-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your assistance! Indeed, I misread the situation, though
>>> the outcome is still strange. The HTML I am starting with in my clipboard
>>> is a complete document with a doctype declaration. The first line is:
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>>>
>>> Pandoc (pandoc -t html+smart) converts the angle brackets into HTML
>>> entity names:
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN” “
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd”>
>>>
>>> Later on in my process, the content gets converted to RTF using
>>> textutil, which removes doctype declarations but retains the line above,
>>> converting the entity names back into angle brackets—which is how I got the
>>> idea that Pandoc had put it there.
>>>
>>> I am not sure why my Pandoc command converts the angle brackets in that
>>> first line—it leaves the other angle brackets in the document alone—but I
>>> can just remove that line from the clipboard text before processing it with
>>> Pandoc, so no problem.
>>> On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 10:48:46 AM UTC-5 tkur...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When standalone is not specified, pandoc typically outputs fragments
>>>> rather than a complete document. This is convenient for the case where you
>>>> are processing multiple fragments into one document. (This happens in HTML
>>>> output but also in other output; groff -ms, ConTeXt, LaTeX.) So normal
>>>> HTML output I see when I don't specify standalone does *not* include
>>>> the doctype.
>>>>
>>>> $ echo '* Bogus' | pandoc -r rst -w html
>>>> <ul>
>>>> <li>Bogus</li>
>>>> </ul>
>>>>
>>>> This is with pandoc 2.16.2, installed with homebrew.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 9:33 AM Joseph Reagle <josep...-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The doctype declaration is a standard HTML feature and declares the
>>>>> version of the HTML. Pandoc, especially in `--standalone` mode includes
>>>>> these at the start of an HTML document.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm confused, however. You haven't specified standalone mode. (And why
>>>>> would you want them removed in any case?) And the behavior you are
>>>>> describing doesn't correspond to recent versions -- I'm using 2.16.2. I'm
>>>>> not sure when/if pandoc last used HTML4.01 strict.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, you could create your own HTML template, without a
>>>>> doctype declaration.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#templates
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21-12-27 15:04, phi...-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>>>> > I am using Pandoc to convert dumb quotes to smart quotes in HTML.
>>>>> The HTML is on my MacOS clipboard:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > pbpaste | pandoc -t html+smart | pbcopy
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The output begins with
>>>>> >
>>>>> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN” “
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd”>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > and a blank line.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is it possible to turn this off?
>>>>>
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2021-12-27 20:04 philmac-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA
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2021-12-28 14:33 ` Joseph Reagle
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2021-12-28 15:48 ` T. Kurt Bond
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2021-12-28 16:26 ` T. Kurt Bond
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