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Thank you. Mark On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 6:29=E2=80=AFPM 'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss = < pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote: > For completeness, I should mention that (for HTML or for PDF created via > HTML) you can use the CSS 'float' property. However I think that the > list-table approach is probably better. > > You can structure the markdown like this (here I've put the necessary CSS > in the header includes). See the attached .md and .html files. > > --- > title: Paper 1.1 > > header-includes: | > > ... > > ## Section 1 of 13 > > ::: {.left .OldEnglish} > > AFTER an unequivocal experience of the inefficiency of the subsisting > federal government, you are called upon to deliberate on a new Constituti= on > for the United States of America. > > ::: > > ::: {.right .ModernEnglish} > > After clearly experiencing that the current federal government isn't > working well, you are asked to think about a new Constitution for the > United States of America. > > ::: > > ::: clear > ::: > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 10:13, William Lupton > wrote: > >> Perhaps you could use list-tables ( >> https://github.com/pandoc-ext/list-table)? >> >> I've attached your markdown with the first section updated to use a >> list-table, and with the other sections removed. The changes are rather >> minimal, e.g., here are the start of the fenced div and the first row (y= ou >> can see that I converted your {.OldEnglish} (etc.) to []{.OldEnglish}, >> i.e., to an empty span with class OldEnglish, which is carried over to >> the table cell). >> >> ::: {.list-table header-rows=3D0} >> >> - - []{.OldEnglish} AFTER an unequivocal experience of the inefficiency >> of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon to deliberate = on >> a new Constitution for the United States of America. >> >> - []{.ModernEnglish} After clearly experiencing that the current >> federal government isn't working well, you are asked to think about a ne= w >> Constitution for the United States of America. >> >> I also attach the HTML generated via this command: >> >> % pandoc -L list-table.lua Paper\ 1.1\ list-table.md > Paper\ 1.1\ >> list-table.html >> >> Here's the HTML for the first row. >> >> >>

AFTER an unequivocal experience of the >> inefficiency of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon >> to deliberate on a new Constitution for the United States of >> America.

>>

After clearly experiencing that the >> current federal government isn=E2=80=99t working well, you are asked to = think >> about a new Constitution for the United States of America.

>> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Cheers, >> William >> >> On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 06:58, S. Manning >> wrote: >> >>> I would like to say that this is a classic problem which most rich text >>> file formats (eg. DOCX or ODT) are not well set up to handle because it= s >>> typical in a religious or academic context but not a business or >>> government context. Parallel texts in several languages are a very >>> common and important use case in layout but one which most digital tool= s >>> neglect because they were designed for business and bureaucratic >>> writing. >>> >>> I'm not aware of a way to handle this in any flavour of Markdown, in >>> HTML I usually use tables but Markdown tables are awkward and not >>> standardized. >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> On 2023-05-06 13:43, Mark Pinsley wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I am brand new to Pandoc. I have been looking at writting some conten= t >>> > that I wanted to present in multiple ways. it seems like Pandoc can >>> > help. >>> > >>> > A few things that I haven't been able to figure out. >>> > >>> > 1. I have attached a document that I created it is the Federalist >>> > Paper #1. I have been using this document to try different things >>> > including creating references etc. What I haven't been able to figure >>> > out is the best method of first defining different paragraphs and the= n >>> > being able to do something specific with them >>> > >>> > In this case. I have created the "Old English" version (which i >>> > probably should have just called Original) and the "Modern English" >>> > version. >>> > >>> > So as I am typing I write in {.ModernEnglish} and {.OldEnglish} >>> > >>> > If I want to produce these so that they are side by side. Meaning the >>> > old English in on the Left and the ModernEnglish is on the right. Ho= w >>> > can I do that, or should I be coming out this in a completely >>> > different way? As I am writing I want to be able to quickly identify >>> > one from an other. >>> > >>> > If I want the OldEnlgih to appear and then the ModernEngilsh as a >>> > CodeBlodk, do I just find/replace all ModernEnglish and replace with >>> > ">" ?? >>> > >>> > 2. If I want to create a look and feel. I want to output this as HTML= , >>> > PDF and PPT. >>> > >>> > On each one I want a particular look/feel How/where do I develop >>> > that look and feel (I am not a programmer so it would be easier if I >>> > could see what the output would look like - meaning moving colors >>> > around etc) >>> > >>> > All help is appreciated. Thanks >>> > Mark >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d >>> > an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >>> > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/d18bf8d8-6871-4087-aa1= d-b48a5ad2af38n%40googlegroups.com >>> > [1]. >>> > >>> > >>> > Links: >>> > ------ >>> > [1] >>> > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/d18bf8d8-6871-4087-aa1= d-b48a5ad2af38n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/05319da3a66ab795d8d217= 77f19ed6f3%40ageofdatini.info >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/B-lBwFzJD1Q/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAEe_xxjsy_bvFkpMCP2qe2j= Hx7Wg5DzE0uEa%3DHCEN6TsrjLrAw%40mail.gmail.com > > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/CAOtJyj609sF5hOeDPW_FP_JZud7p-qJTxkz94BfR-XN5A8TvzA%40mail.g= mail.com. --000000000000464f0705fb2d922e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is great!=C2=A0 Thank you.
Mark<= /div>


3D""
On Sun, May 7, 2023 = at 6:29=E2=80=AFPM 'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org= > wrote:
=
For completeness, I should mention that (for HTML or for P= DF created via HTML) you can use the CSS 'float' property. However = I think that the list-table approach is probably better.

You can structure the markdown like this (here I've put the necessary = CSS in the header includes). See the attached .md and .html files.

---
title: Paper 1.1

he= ader-includes: |
=C2=A0 <style>
=C2=A0 div.left {
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 width: 49%;
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 float: left;
=C2=A0 }

=C2=A0 div= .right {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 width: 49%;
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 float: right;
=C2= =A0 }

=C2=A0 div.clear {
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 clear: both;
=C2=A0 }=C2=A0 </style>
...

## Section 1 of 13

::: {.left = .OldEnglish}

AFTER an unequivocal experience of the inefficiency of = the subsisting federal government, you are called upon to deliberate on a n= ew Constitution for the United States of America.

:::

::: {.r= ight .ModernEnglish}

After clearly experiencing that the current fed= eral government isn't working well, you are asked to think about a new = Constitution for the United States of America.

:::

::: clear<= br>:::

<etc.>

On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 10:= 13, William Lupton <wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Perhaps you could = use list-tables (https://github.com/pandoc-ext/list-table)?

<= div>I've attached your markdown with the first section updated to use a= list-table, and with the other sections removed. The changes are rather mi= nimal, e.g., here are the start of the fenced div and the first row (you ca= n see that I converted your=C2=A0{.OldEnglish} (etc.) to []{.OldEnglish}, i.e., to an empty span with class OldEnglish, which is carried over to the table cell).

::: {.list-table header-row= s=3D0}

- - []{.OldEnglish} AFTER an unequivocal experience of the in= efficiency of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon to del= iberate on a new Constitution for the United States of America.

=C2= =A0 - []{.ModernEnglish} After clearly experiencing that the current federa= l government isn't working well, you are asked to think about a new Con= stitution for the United States of America.

I also= attach the HTML generated via this command:

% pandoc -L list-table.lua Paper\ 1.1\ list-table.md &g= t; Paper\ 1.1\ list-table.html

Here'= ;s the HTML for the first row.

<tr class=3D"odd">
<td class=3D"OldEnglish= "><p> AFTER an unequivocal experience of the
inefficiency = of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon
to deliberate = on a new Constitution for the United States of
America.</p></td= >
<td class=3D"ModernEnglish"><p> After clearly= experiencing that the
current federal government isn=E2=80=99t working = well, you are asked to think
about a new Constitution for the United Sta= tes of America.</p></td>
</tr>
Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Wi= lliam

On Sun, 7 May 2023 at 06:58, S. Manning <scriptor-aFO/2INALiozYggVrLCuDg@public.gmane.org>= ; wrote:
I would= like to say that this is a classic problem which most rich text
file formats (eg. DOCX or ODT) are not well set up to handle because its typical in a religious or academic context but not a business or
government context.=C2=A0 Parallel texts in several languages are a very common and important use case in layout but one which most digital tools neglect because they were designed for business and bureaucratic
writing.

I'm not aware of a way to handle this in any flavour of Markdown, in HTML I usually use tables but Markdown tables are awkward and not
standardized.

Sean

On 2023-05-06 13:43, Mark Pinsley wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am brand new to Pandoc. I have been looking at writting some content=
> that I wanted to present in multiple ways. it seems like Pandoc can > help.
>
> A few things that I haven't been able to figure out.
>
> 1. I have attached a document that I created it is the Federalist
> Paper #1. I have been using this document to try different things
> including creating references etc. What I haven't been able to fig= ure
> out is the best method of first defining different paragraphs and then=
> being able to do something specific with them
>
> In this case. I have created the "Old English" version (whic= h i
> probably should have just called Original) and the "Modern Englis= h"
> version.
>
> So as I am typing I write in {.ModernEnglish} and {.OldEnglish}
>
> If I want to produce these so that they are side by side. Meaning the<= br> > old English in on the Left and the ModernEnglish=C2=A0 is on the right= . How
> can I do that, or should I be coming out this in a completely
> different way? As I am writing I want to be able to quickly identify > one from an other.
>
> If I want the OldEnlgih to appear and then the ModernEngilsh as a
> CodeBlodk, do I just find/replace all ModernEnglish and replace with > ">"=C2=A0 ??
>
> 2. If I want to create a look and feel. I want to output this as HTML,=
> PDF and PPT.
>
> On each one I want a particular look/feel=C2=A0 =C2=A0How/where do I d= evelop
> that look and feel (I am not a programmer so it would be easier if I > could see what the output would look like - meaning moving colors
> around etc)
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> All help is appreciated. Thanks
> Mark
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