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[185.70.43.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f23si130399wmh.2.2021.06.11.05.42.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org designates 185.70.43.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=185.70.43.19; In-Reply-To: <12103c9c-602d-4f60-b699-471dcbceb1dfn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> X-Original-Sender: njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@protonmail.com header.s=protonmail header.b=wKfzkB88; spf=pass (google.com: domain of njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org designates 185.70.43.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=protonmail.com X-Original-From: Nick Bart Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:28582 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --b1_1wmy9Rd9ZIYxlnds92x3vi5NJyGWGmtNljRs9wHI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=E2=80=99m seeing this, too (using the most recent dev version), and agree= in preferring the =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 behaviour. =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Friday, June 11, 2021 11:44 AM, Frederik Elwert wrote: > Hello everybody, > > when upgrading pandoc in our publication workflow (2.9=E2=86=922.13), and= thus switching from pandoc-citeproc to citeproc, we noticed a change in be= haviour: > > We are converting all references authors send us to csl-yaml and embedd t= hem within the markdown file through the `references` metadata variable. > > Previously, only those entries that were actually cited also got printed = in the bibliography. That=E2=80=99s what we expected. Now, with citeproc, w= e find that *all* entries from the `references` list are printed in the bib= liography. This is different from taking the same entries, putting them in = an external bibtex file, and include them with the `bibliography` metadata = key. If we do that, we get the old behaviour. > > So in sum, `references` now behaves like `bibliography` + `nocite: @*`. > > Is this the new intended behaviour, or is this a bug/regression? > > (For us, the older behaviour worked better, because often authors have ad= ditional entries in their bibliography, against the guidelines. The old beh= aviour made sure we only include those that are actually cited. Now we have= to check the references list manually.) > > Thanks in advance, > Frederik > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msg= id/pandoc-discuss/12103c9c-602d-4f60-b699-471dcbceb1dfn%40googlegroups.com]= (https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/12103c9c-602d-4f60-b699-4= 71dcbceb1dfn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter). --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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I=E2=80=99m seeing this, too (using the most recent dev version), and = agree in preferring the =E2=80=98old=E2=80=99 behaviour.
=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90= Original Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2= =80=90
On Friday, June 11, 2021 11:44 AM, Frederik Elwert &l= t;frederik.elwert-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Hello everybody,

when upgrading pandoc in our publication workflow (2.9=E2= =86=922.13), and thus switching from pandoc-citeproc to citeproc, we notice= d a change in behaviour:

We are converting all= references authors send us to csl-yaml and embedd them within the markdown= file through the `references` metadata variable.

<= div>Previously, only those entries that were actually cited also got printe= d in the bibliography. That=E2=80=99s what we expected. Now, with citeproc,= we find that *all* entries from the `references` list are printed in the b= ibliography. This is different from taking the same entries, putting them i= n an external bibtex file, and include them with the `bibliography` metadat= a key. If we do that, we get the old behaviour.

So in sum, `references` now behaves like `bibliography` + `nocite: @*`.

Is this the new intended behaviour, or is this = a bug/regression?

(For us, the older behaviour= worked better, because often authors have additional entries in their bibl= iography, against the guidelines. The old behaviour made sure we only inclu= de those that are actually cited. Now we have to check the references list = manually.)

Thanks in advance,
Fr= ederik


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