From: John MacFarlane <fiddlosopher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Issues with Quotation Marks in Pandoc When Mixing Japanese and English Texts
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:34:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D44375EB-4058-4C5F-AF39-461B38B30EE7@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a0eafdc-b4a2-4a6a-9488-d2a1c9ef8351n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
I would recommend using unicode curly quotes in the markdown when you're working in a language without interword spacing. We rely on interword spacing for heuristics about smart quotes.
> On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Shigeru Kobayashi <mayfair-+k8b35VvZrR3+QwDJ9on6Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Pandoc community,
>
> I have encountered two issues regarding Pandoc's handling of quotation marks in cases where Japanese and English texts are mixed.
>
> I am using Pandoc version 3.1.2 on macOS 12.6.3, and I can reproduce these issues. If these are indeed bugs, I am planning to submit them as issues on GitHub. However, I would appreciate any guidance if these issues arise from my incorrect usage.
>
> Issue 1: Conversion of English phrases within Japanese text
>
> I have observed the following issue. "input.md" is the input file, and "input.tex" is the output file.
>
> $ pandoc input.md -o input.tex
>
> input.md:
> その人は"Hello, world!"と言いました。
>
> input.tex:
> その人は''Hello, world!{}``と言いました。
>
> However, the conversion is correct when spaces are added before and after the double quotation marks.
>
> input.md:
> その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
>
> input.tex:
> その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
>
>
> Issue 2: The quotation marks are treated as Japanese text
>
> When converting with Pandoc, the quotation marks are treated as Japanese text, resulting in an unnaturally wide gap. I have confirmed this using two files, "preamble.tex" and "input.md," and specifying as follows:
>
> $ pandoc input.md -o input.pdf --pdf-engine=xelatex -H preamble.tex.
>
> preamble.tex:
> \usepackage{fontspec}
>
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
>
>
> input.md:
> ---
> documentclass: bxjsarticle
> classoption: pandoc
> papersize: a4
> fontsize: 10pt
> ---
>
> # はじめに
>
> その人は "Hello, world!" と言いました。
>
> That person said, "Hello, world!"
>
> <pandoc test 2023-04-10 8.47.43.png>
>
> In contrast, when I directly write the content in TeX and output it using $ xelatex test.tex, the quotation marks are treated as English text, and the expected output is obtained.
>
> test.tex:
> \documentclass[a4paper,xelatex,ja=standard]{bxjsarticle}
>
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Georgia}
> \setjamainfont{BIZ UDMincho Medium}
>
> \title{テスト}
> \begin{document}
> \maketitle
>
> \section{はじめに}
>
> その人は ``Hello, world!'' と言いました。
>
> That person said, ``Hello, world!''
>
> \end{document}
>
> <xelatex test 2023-04-10 8.46.44.png>
>
> Shigeru Kobayashi
>
>
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2023-04-09 23:53 Shigeru Kobayashi
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2023-04-10 7:40 ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-04-10 17:34 ` John MacFarlane [this message]
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2023-04-10 23:30 ` Shigeru Kobayashi
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2023-04-11 5:32 ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-04-11 5:50 ` Shigeru Kobayashi
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2023-04-11 22:01 ` BPJ
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2023-04-11 22:26 ` Shigeru Kobayashi
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