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Could a YAML metadata block be a solution? ```yaml glossary: glossary_lang: grc entries: - headword: =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF=82 text: "=E2=96=A1 *pt.* bom; =E2=96=A1 *en.* good; and so on and so fo= rth" match: - =CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AD - =CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=BF=CE=AF - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CE=B8 - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AC - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AC=CF=82 - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AE - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AE=CE=BD - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=B1=CE=AF - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=BF=CE=AF - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=BF=CF=82 - headword: =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6=CE=BD transliteration: agapan text: "=E2=96=A1 *pt.* estar satisfeito, gostar; =E2=96=A1 *en.* be s= atisfied,=20 like;" match: - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B1 - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B1=CE=B9=CF=82 - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B7 - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B7=CE=BD - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B7=CF=82 - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=E1=BF=83 - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6 - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6=CE=BD - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6=CF=82 ``` On 18 Oct 2022, at 14:34, Bastien DUMONT wrote: > No, citeproc receives a data structure produced by pandoc. Pandoc is=20 > responsible for the parsing. I think that your script would not be so=20 > hard to rewrite in Lua, the main problem is to know if you can achieve=20 > your goals this way. If your main concern is portability, then writing=20 > a Lua filter with no dependancies certainly is a good solution=20 > provided that you feed it with a Lua data structure (or embed the code=20 > responsible for JSON parsing in your script). > > Le Tuesday 18 October 2022 =C3=A0 02:16:16PM, Bernardo C.D.A. Vasconcelos= =20 > a =C3=A9crit : >> Thank you for the suggestions, Bastien. There is technically no need=20 >> for >> regex, as all the forms are spelled out to avoid the need to create=20 >> ad hoc >> regex rules for each term. Now that I think about it, the principle=20 >> is the >> same as Citeproc's: a tagged inline element will be matched against a=20 >> lookup >> table and replaced. I will look at the citeproc code to see if it=20 >> leads >> anywhere or if it could be reused in anyway. >> >> On 18 Oct 2022, at 13:34, Bastien DUMONT wrote: >> >>> Yes, but it is limited to this utf8 library. For instance, if=20 >>> perform a >>> regexp search like `string.match('=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF= =82', '[=CE=B3=CE=B4]')`, it try=20 >>> to match one >>> of the four bytes inside the square brackets against the string >>> '=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF=82', so it will return the first = byte of =CE=B3, not =CE=B3. To=20 >>> circumvent >>> this limitation, you would be forced to test =CE=B3 and =CE=B4 separate= ly. >>> Nevertheless, if you always perform comparisons between whole=20 >>> strings as >>> you currently do in your script, this should not be a problem. >>> >>> As for your concern with dependancies, you most probably would have=20 >>> to >>> rely on a JSON library such as lunajson. However, if your JSON files=20 >>> are >>> not supposed to change, you could also convert them to a Lua file=20 >>> using >>> a JSON library and a serialization library, so as to be able to=20 >>> import >>> the resulting Lua data structure directly in your filter. >>> >>> Le Tuesday 18 October 2022 =C3=A0 12:36:03PM, Bernardo C.D.A.=20 >>> Vasconcelos a >>> =C3=A9crit : >>>>> As for translating the filter note that Lua can't really handle >>>>> UTF-8. >>>>> There is some rudimentary support for converting codepoint >>>>> number =E2=86=94 >>>>> UTF-8 >>>>> byte sequences and for iterating through a string of bytes >>>>> representing >>>>> UTF-8 encoded characters but no concept of chars as opposed to >>>>> bytes. >>>>> This >>>>> may become a show stopper if you need to manipulate strings >>>>> containing >>>>> UTF-8 text. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, @BPJ, for the explanation. Apparently, Lua 5.3 onwards >>>> includes >>>> UTF-8 support. Have you seen it? E.g.=20 >>>> https://q-syshelp.qsc.com/Content/Control_Scripting/Lua_5.3_Reference_= Manual/Standard_Libraries/4_-_Basic_UTF-8_Support.htm >>>> >>>>> For Ancient Greek you want grc as the language tag. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Indeed it is (and that is generally what I use), but =E1=BC=80=CE=B3= =CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF=82=20 >>>> is just >>>> Polytonic Greek, which is not the same as Ancient Greek. >>>> >>>> --=20 >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/3307993F-F813-405F-BF= EC-F17FAF27BEA5%40gmail.com. >>> >>> --=20 >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,=20 >>> send >>> an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/Y07VnbuRsuqUg8US%40loc= alhost. >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,=20 >> send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/7072522D-F2FE-4BAC-A575= -93426852FCFB%40gmail.com. > > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send=20 > an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/Y07ji07FFokQdOR%2B%40loc= alhost. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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The data is mostly in database format and could be output i= n the best format for the task, but I wanted to make it friendly for other = people to use as well. Could a YAML metadata block be a solution?

glossary:
  glossary_lang: grc
  entries:
  - headword: =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=
=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF=82
    text: "=E2=96=A1 *pt.* bom;  =E2=96=A1 *en.* good; and so on and =
so forth"=

    match:
    - =CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AD
    - =CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=BF=CE=AF
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CE=B8
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AC
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AC=CF=82
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AE
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=AE=CE=BD
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=B1=CE=AF
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=BF=CE=AF
    - =CE=BA=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CE=BF=CF=82
  - headword: =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=
=CF=80=E1=BE=B6=CE=BD
    transliteration: agapan
    text: "=E2=96=A1 *pt.* estar satisfeito, gostar;  =
=E2=96=A1 *en.=
* be satisfied, like;"
    match:
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B1
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B1=CE=B9=CF=82
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B7
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B7=CE=BD
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=CE=B7=CF=82
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=AC=CF=80=E1=BF=83
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6=CE=BD
    - =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CF=80=E1=BE=B6=CF=82

On 18 Oct 2022, at 14:34, Bastien DUMONT wrote:

No, citeproc receives = a data structure produced by pandoc. Pandoc is responsible for the parsing.= I think that your script would not be so hard to rewrite in Lua, the main = problem is to know if you can achieve your goals this way. If your main con= cern is portability, then writing a Lua filter with no dependancies certain= ly is a good solution provided that you feed it with a Lua data structure (= or embed the code responsible for JSON parsing in your script).

Le Tuesday 18 October 2022 =C3=A0 02:16:16PM, Bernardo C.D.A. Vasconcelos a= =C3=A9crit :

Thank you for the suggestions, Bastien. There i= s technically no need for
regex, as all the forms are spelled out to avoid the need to create ad hoc<= br> regex rules for each term. Now that I think about it, the principle is the<= br> same as Citeproc's: a tagged inline element will be matched against a l= ookup
table and replaced. I will look at the citeproc code to see if it leads
anywhere or if it could be reused in anyway.

On 18 Oct 2022, at 13:34, Bastien DUMONT wrote:

Yes, but it is limited to this utf8 library. Fo= r instance, if perform a
regexp search like `string.match('=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF= =82', '[=CE=B3=CE=B4]')`, it try to match one
of the four bytes inside the square brackets against the string
'=E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF=82', so it will return the fi= rst byte of =CE=B3, not =CE=B3. To circumvent
this limitation, you would be forced to test =CE=B3 and =CE=B4 separately.<= br> Nevertheless, if you always perform comparisons between whole strings as you currently do in your script, this should not be a problem.

As for your concern with dependancies, you most probably would have to
rely on a JSON library such as lunajson. However, if your JSON files are not supposed to change, you could also convert them to a Lua file using
a JSON library and a serialization library, so as to be able to import
the resulting Lua data structure directly in your filter.

Le Tuesday 18 October 2022 =C3=A0 12:36:03PM, Bernardo C.D.A. Vasconcelos a=
=C3=A9crit :

As for translating the filter note = that Lua can't really handle
UTF-8.
There is some rudimentary support for converting codepoint
number =E2=86=94
UTF-8
byte sequences and for iterating through a string of bytes
representing
UTF-8 encoded characters but no concept of chars as opposed to
bytes.
This
may become a show stopper if you need to manipulate strings
containing
UTF-8 text.

Thanks, @BPJ, for the explanation. Apparently,= Lua 5.3 onwards
includes
UTF-8 support. Have you seen it? E.g. https://q-syshelp.qsc.com/Content/Control_Scripting= /Lua_5.3_Reference_Manual/Standard_Libraries/4_-_Basic_UTF-8_Support.htm

For Ancient Greek you want grc as the language = tag.

Indeed it is (and that is generally what I use= ), but =E1=BC=80=CE=B3=CE=B1=CE=B8=CF=8C=CF=82 is just
Polytonic Greek, which is not the same as Ancient Greek.

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