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* APA CSL: journal name starting with semicolon
@ 2023-02-13 15:51 Albert Krewinkel
       [not found] ` <87sff9mrhj.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
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From: Albert Krewinkel @ 2023-02-13 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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The following BibLaTeX,

    @article{Tange2011a,
      address = {Frederiksberg, Denmark},
      author = {Tange, O.},
      doi = {10.5281/zenodo.16303},
      journal = {{;login: The USENIX Magazine}},
      month = Feb,
      number = 1,
      pages = {42-47},
      title = {GNU Parallel - The Command-Line Power Tool},
      url = {http://www.gnu.org/s/parallel},
      volume = 36,
      year = 2011
    }

when processed with,

    pandoc -f biblatex -t plain --citeproc --csl=apa-6th-edition.csl

yields

    Tange, O. (2011). GNU parallel - the command-line power
    tool;Login: The USENIX Magazine, 36(1), 42–47.
    https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.16303

where the csl file is taken from
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles/master/apa-6th-edition.csl

Note that the semicolon at the start of the journal title has replaced
the period that would otherwise terminate the title of the article.
Similar things happen with other styles as well, e.g., nature, but not
in pandoc's default style (chicago-author-date).

Is there some way to prevent this, either by changing the bib source or
by updating the citation style?

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* Re: APA CSL: journal name starting with semicolon
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@ 2023-02-13 17:22   ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2023-02-13 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw

IIRC there's some code in citeproc that removes redundant punctuation; obviously it
is doing the wrong thing in this case.

Also, it should be blocking the case transform on login and it isn't.

Have you tried converting this to CSL JSON and using the same stylesheet with
Zotero/citeproc.js?  That would tell us if there is a bug in citeproc or if
this is expected behavior.  A bug report on jgm/citeproc might be warranted.


> On Feb 13, 2023, at 7:51 AM, Albert Krewinkel <albert+pandoc-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> The following BibLaTeX,
> 
>    @article{Tange2011a,
>      address = {Frederiksberg, Denmark},
>      author = {Tange, O.},
>      doi = {10.5281/zenodo.16303},
>      journal = {{;login: The USENIX Magazine}},
>      month = Feb,
>      number = 1,
>      pages = {42-47},
>      title = {GNU Parallel - The Command-Line Power Tool},
>      url = {http://www.gnu.org/s/parallel},
>      volume = 36,
>      year = 2011
>    }
> 
> when processed with,
> 
>    pandoc -f biblatex -t plain --citeproc --csl=apa-6th-edition.csl
> 
> yields
> 
>    Tange, O. (2011). GNU parallel - the command-line power
>    tool;Login: The USENIX Magazine, 36(1), 42–47.
>    https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.16303
> 
> where the csl file is taken from
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/citation-style-language/styles/master/apa-6th-edition.csl
> 
> Note that the semicolon at the start of the journal title has replaced
> the period that would otherwise terminate the title of the article.
> Similar things happen with other styles as well, e.g., nature, but not
> in pandoc's default style (chicago-author-date).
> 
> Is there some way to prevent this, either by changing the bib source or
> by updating the citation style?
> 
> -- 
> Albert Krewinkel
> GPG: 8eed e3e2 e8c5 6f18 81fe  e836 388d c0b2 1f63 1124
> 
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