Re: Suppressing author in citation

[Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>]

Renewing \autocite* seems to be a good approach. So please try again and
reproduce your exact commands if the error persists!

Le Sunday 09 May 2021 à 12:14:40PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
> Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author} for
> all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem happy with
> either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the former
> objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter because the
> starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an error in the
> rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the problem...)
> 
> On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> 
>     I meant \clearname{author}
> 
>     On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> 
>         See the first answer to this question: https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/
>         262472/ I don't know if exactly the same code will work with
>         biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. You want to make a
>         command to suppress printing of the author (in the linked answer, it's
>         called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the beginning of the
>         starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to suppress the
>         author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but Chicago
>         style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations in
>         question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
> 
>         On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org
>         wrote:
> 
>             Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
> 
> 
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>             Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>             Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
>             An: pandoc-discuss
>             Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> 
>             Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
> 
>             On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3r1GAl8QSHYmA@public.gmane.orgh
>             wrote:
>             I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may
>             want to look into how the standard styles do this.
>             ________________________________________
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>             Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
>             An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>             Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
> 
>             It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in
>             biblatex styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
> 
>             Denis
> 
> 
> 
>             ________________________________________
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>             Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>             Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
>             An: pandoc-discuss
>             Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> 
>             Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration,
>             can anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on
>             how to do so.
> 
>             Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving
>             in the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
> 
>             On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3r1GAl8QSHYmA@public.gmane.orgh
>             wrote:
>             Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
>             unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https:/
>             /www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
> 
> 
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>             Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>             Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
>             An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>             Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
> 
>             biblatex-chicago (via biber)
> 
>             Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3rhvxM+mQhndA@public.gmane.orgch a écrit
>             :
>             > What's the citation style?
>             >
>             > Denis
>             >
>             >
>             >
>             > ________________________________________
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>             Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>             > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
>             > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>             > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>             >
>             > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}.
>             From biblatex's manual
>             > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave
>             differently from the regular
>             > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command."
>             So you should probably
>             > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a
>             no-author command (but I
>             > can't tell you more.
>             >
>             > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
>             > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>             > >
>             > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a
>             pdf that shows
>             > > what I'm getting.
>             > >
>             > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of
>             what I'm using
>             > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
>             > >
>             > > Thank you
>             > >
>             > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>             > >
>             > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a
>             footnote are
>             > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you
>             could provide a
>             > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this
>             problem.
>             > >
>             > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
>             wrote:
>             > >
>             > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the
>             footnote!
>             > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>             > >
>             > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>             > >
>             > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the
>             citation,
>             > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need
>             to
>             > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
>             > >
>             > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...@gmail.com
>             > > wrote:
>             > >
>             > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
>             > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
>             > >
>             > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
>             > > to suppress author in the reference.
>             > >
>             > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
>             > > example):
>             > >
>             > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
>             > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>             > >
>             > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>             > >
>             > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
>             > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
>             > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
>             > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
>             > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>             > >
>             > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
>             > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>             > >
>             > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
>             > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
>             > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
>             > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
>             > > advice welcomed!
>             > >
>             > > Many thanks
>             > >
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>             > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
>             -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
>             -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s
>             work is fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental
>             theology of Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought
>             from the philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle
>             into a framework shaped by phenomenology.
>             > >
>             > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
>             > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
>             > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
>             > > year = {1952},
>             > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
>             > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
>             > > }
>             > >
>             > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
>             > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
>             > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>             > > year = {1964},
>             > > edition = {7de dr.},
>             > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>             > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>             > > }
>             > >
>             > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
>             > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
>             > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>             > > year = {1967},
>             > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>             > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>             > > }
>             > >
>             > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
>             > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
>             > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>             > > year = {2005},
>             > > edition = {First published 1967},
>             > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
>             > > address = {{London}},
>             > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
>             > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
>             > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
>             > > }
>             > >
>             > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
>             > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
>             > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
>             > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>             > > year = {2014},
>             > > edition = {First published 1959},
>             > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
>             > > address = {{London}},
>             > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
>             > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
>             > > number = {1},
>             > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
>             > > }
>             > >
>             > >
>             >
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