Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed

[Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>]

The CSL Specification states that the default attribute for @match is "all", but Zotero sets it to "any". So Pandoc is right, and to ensure compatibility with all processors, @match should always be explicitely set in the stylesheet.

Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 à 08:27:20AM, Hakan Dağdelen a écrit :
> Ok, thanks for the information.
> 
> By the way, there is one more issue with the style file: If I don't add match
> attribute at line 55, Pandoc does not print title for the entries on that line.
> However, Zotero's style editor does not need match attribute there. This is
> maybe another discrepancy between processors.
> 
> On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:54:50 PM UTC+3 denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org wrote:
> 
> 
>     Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag
>     von Hakan Dagdelen
>     Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:51
>     An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
>     Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed
> 
>      
> 
>     The style file does not carry an id. I believe that is the reason why
>     Zotero does not want to load it. You can type there anything and Zotero
>     loads. But also, the content of the file can be copied to Zotero's style
>     editor. There, it works. Zotero produces the expected output.
> 
>     Thanks for checking. Then it looks like a bug in pandoc’s citeproc, or at
>     least a discrepancy between citeproc-js and pandoc’s citeproc.
> 
>      
> 
>     I am using Zotero 5.0.96.2 and Pandoc 2.14.1.
> 
>      
> 
>     On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:15:03 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont wrote:
> 
>         For me too, although the style appears to be valid once you replace the
>         slash by an underscore and can be used in the CSL style editor ([1]
>         https://editor.citationstyles.org/codeEditor/).
> 
>         Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 à 02:07:29PM, denis...@unibe.ch a écrit
>         :
>         > Just a side-issue: Checking your style with [2] https://
>         validator.citationstyles.org/ gives me three errors though on
>         "title-bib/cit". Probably not related, but anyway.
>         >
>         > FWIW, I've tried to cross-check with Zotero, but Zotero refuses to
>         install your style at all...
>         >
>         > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>         > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
>         > > Im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT
>         > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:02
>         > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>         > > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed
>         > >
>         > > Hm, sorry, I can't see what could be wrong here. The problem may
>         come from
>         > > the fact that the disambiguation code is triggered in subsequent
>         citations (not
>         > > in the bibliography, since the entries will be not be formatted in
>         the same way
>         > > there). If it is true, you've found a bug, but I may have missed
>         something.
>         > >
>         > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 à 06:28:57AM, Hakan Dağdelen a écrit
>         :
>         > > > Thanks a lot for the promt relpy.
>         > > >
>         > > > I call it under citation and bibliography layout. Here is my CSL
>         file:
>         > > > https:// [3]pastebin.com/MdzdZLXs
>         > > >
>         > > > Here is a bib file in json: [4] https://pastebin.com/GgWeVU1x
>         > > >
>         > > > And here is a bib file in tex: [5] https://pastebin.com/YUb73afz
>         > > >
>         > > >
>         > > >
>         > > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:28:38 PM UTC+3 Bastien
>         Dumont
>         > > wrote:
>         > > >
>         > > > How do you call this macro? Could you provide a CSL file
>         including it and a
>         > > > small example where it should be triggered? Normally it should
>         work: see
>         > > > the related test in citeproc's test suite: [1][6]https://
>         github.com/jgm/
>         > > > citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51ab9a1ed/test/csl/
>         > > > disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt
>         > > >
>         > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 à 03:09:14PM, hakan a écrit :
>         > > > > Hi,
>         > > > >
>         > > > > I have the following macro in my CSL style file:
>         > > > >
>         > > > >    <macro name="disambiguate">
>         > > > >      <choose>
>         > > > >        <if disambiguate="true">
>         > > > >          <text variable="title-short"/>
>         > > > >        </if>
>         > > > >      </choose>
>         > > > >    </macro>
>         > > > >
>         > > > > I use this macro in subsequent citations and bibliography. It
>         helps me
>         > > > > to disambiguate works of authors cited with multiple works in
>         citations
>         > > > > and to add a short title information at the end of the relevant
>         > > > > bibliography entries.
>         > > > >
>         > > > > When I convert org or tex documents with Pandoc, this macro is
>         ignored
>         > > > > and nothing gets printed at the relevant positions. I tried
>         both
>         > > > > CSL-json and biblatex files as bibliography files. Shorttitle
>         fields are
>         > > > > filled in.
>         > > > >
>         > > > > How can I have this CSL macro work with Pandoc?
>         > > > >
>         > > > > Thanks a lot in advance.
>         > > > >
>         > > > > Hakan
>         > > > >
>         > > > >
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> [2] https://validator.citationstyles.org/
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