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So Pandoc is right, and to ensure compatibil= ity with all processors, @match should always be explicitely set in the sty= lesheet. Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 08:27:20AM, Hakan Da=C4=9Fdelen a =C3= =A9crit : > Ok, thanks for the information. >=20 > By the way, there is one more issue with the style file: If I don't add m= atch > attribute at line 55, Pandoc does not print title for the entries on that= line. > However, Zotero's style editor does not need match attribute there. This = is > maybe another discrepancy between processors. >=20 > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:54:50 PM UTC+3 denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org wro= te: >=20 >=20 > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Im Auf= trag > von Hakan Dagdelen > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:51 > An: pandoc-discuss > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > The style file does not carry an id. I believe that is the reason why > Zotero does not want to load it. You can type there anything and Zote= ro > loads. But also, the content of the file can be copied to Zotero's st= yle > editor. There, it works. Zotero produces the expected output. >=20 > Thanks for checking. Then it looks like a bug in pandoc=E2=80=99s cit= eproc, or at > least a discrepancy between citeproc-js and pandoc=E2=80=99s citeproc= . >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > I am using Zotero 5.0.96.2 and Pandoc 2.14.1. >=20 > =C2=A0 >=20 > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:15:03 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont wr= ote: >=20 > For me too, although the style appears to be valid once you repla= ce the > slash by an underscore and can be used in the CSL style editor ([= 1] > https://editor.citationstyles.org/codeEditor/). >=20 > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 02:07:29PM, denis...@unibe.= ch a =C3=A9crit > : > > Just a side-issue: Checking your style with [2] https:// > validator.citationstyles.org/ gives me three errors though on > "title-bib/cit". Probably not related, but anyway. > > > > FWIW, I've tried to cross-check with Zotero, but Zotero refuses= to > install your style at all... > > > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > Im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:02 > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed > > > > > > Hm, sorry, I can't see what could be wrong here. The problem = may > come from > > > the fact that the disambiguation code is triggered in subsequ= ent > citations (not > > > in the bibliography, since the entries will be not be formatt= ed in > the same way > > > there). If it is true, you've found a bug, but I may have mis= sed > something. > > > > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 06:28:57AM, Hakan Da=C4= =9Fdelen a =C3=A9crit > : > > > > Thanks a lot for the promt relpy. > > > > > > > > I call it under citation and bibliography layout. Here is m= y CSL > file: > > > > https:// [3]pastebin.com/MdzdZLXs > > > > > > > > Here is a bib file in json: [4] https://pastebin.com/GgWeVU= 1x > > > > > > > > And here is a bib file in tex: [5] https://pastebin.com/YUb= 73afz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:28:38 PM UTC+3 Bastien > Dumont > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How do you call this macro? Could you provide a CSL file > including it and a > > > > small example where it should be triggered? Normally it sho= uld > work: see > > > > the related test in citeproc's test suite: [1][6]https:// > github.com/jgm/ > > > > citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51ab9a1ed/test= /csl/ > > > > disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt > > > > > > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 03:09:14PM, hakan a = =C3=A9crit : > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have the following macro in my CSL style file: > > > > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 > > > > > > > > > > I use this macro in subsequent citations and bibliography= . It > helps me > > > > > to disambiguate works of authors cited with multiple work= s in > citations > > > > > and to add a short title information at the end of the re= levant > > > > > bibliography entries. > > > > > > > > > > When I convert org or tex documents with Pandoc, this mac= ro is > ignored > > > > > and nothing gets printed at the relevant positions. I tri= ed > both > > > > > CSL-json and biblatex files as bibliography files. Shortt= itle > fields are > > > > > filled in. > > > > > > > > > > How can I have this CSL macro work with Pandoc? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > > > > > > > > > Hakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to t= he > Google > > > Groups > > > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails = from > it, send an > > > > email > > > > > to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [2][2][7]https:/= / > groups.google.com/ > > > > d/msgid/ > > > > > pandoc-discuss/ > > > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > > BS%3D6yw%[3] > > > > [8]40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > > > [2] [4][9]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discus= s/ > > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > > BS%3D6yw%[10]40mail.gmail.com? 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