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* Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
@ 2022-01-21 16:36 William Lupton
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-01-21 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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All,

I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which means
that citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.

I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still labeled 1, 2,
3... However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a
numeric variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort
key).

(It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it could be
addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard 'sorted-number' (or
similar) variable.)

Any ideas?

Thanks,
William

---- example ----

With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives this
(citations sorted by order of reference):

[1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
[2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990

...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):

[1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
[2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999

---
title: Reference order illustration

references:
- id: RFC1149
  call-number: RFC 1149
  title: Avian Carriers
  publisher: IETF
  issued: {year: 1990}

- id: RFC2549
  call-number: RFC 2549
  title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
  publisher: IETF
  issued: {year: 1999}
...

# Text

This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].

This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].

# References

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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
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@ 2022-01-21 17:36   ` Bastien DUMONT
  2022-01-24 10:01     ` William Lupton
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2022-01-21 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable address your need?
https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#toc-entry-92

Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> All,
> 
> I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which means that
> citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.
> 
> I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still labeled 1, 2, 3...
> However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a numeric
> variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort key).
> 
> (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it could be
> addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard 'sorted-number' (or
> similar) variable.)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> William
> 
> ---- example ----
> 
> With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives this
> (citations sorted by order of reference):
> 
> [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
> [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> 
> ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> 
> [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
> 
> ---
> title: Reference order illustration
> 
> references:
> - id: RFC1149
>   call-number: RFC 1149
>   title: Avian Carriers
>   publisher: IETF
>   issued: {year: 1990}
> 
> - id: RFC2549
>   call-number: RFC 2549
>   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>   publisher: IETF
>   issued: {year: 1999}
> ...
> 
> # Text
> 
> This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> 
> This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> 
> # References
> 
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
  2022-01-21 17:36   ` Bastien DUMONT
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-01-24 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2, 3 etc.
as citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable address
> your need?
> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#toc-entry-92
>
> Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > All,
> >
> > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which means
> that
> > citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.
> >
> > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still labeled 1,
> 2, 3...
> > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a
> numeric
> > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort key).
> >
> > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it could be
> > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard 'sorted-number'
> (or
> > similar) variable.)
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > William
> >
> > ---- example ----
> >
> > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives this
> > (citations sorted by order of reference):
> >
> > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
> 1999
> > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >
> > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >
> > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
> 1999
> >
> > ---
> > title: Reference order illustration
> >
> > references:
> > - id: RFC1149
> >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >   title: Avian Carriers
> >   publisher: IETF
> >   issued: {year: 1990}
> >
> > - id: RFC2549
> >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >   publisher: IETF
> >   issued: {year: 1999}
> > ...
> >
> > # Text
> >
> > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >
> > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >
> > # References
> >
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
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@ 2022-01-24 10:32         ` Bastien DUMONT
  2022-01-24 12:59           ` William Lupton
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2022-01-24 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#sorting

"citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.

Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
> That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2, 3 etc. as
> citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
> 
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.orgt>
> wrote:
> 
>     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable address your
>     need?
>     [2]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
>     toc-entry-92
> 
>     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     > All,
>     >
>     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which means
>     that
>     > citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.
>     >
>     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still labeled 1,
>     2, 3...
>     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a
>     numeric
>     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort key).
>     >
>     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it could be
>     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard 'sorted-number'
>     (or
>     > similar) variable.)
>     >
>     > Any ideas?
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     > William
>     >
>     > ---- example ----
>     >
>     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives this
>     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
>     >
>     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
>     1999
>     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >
>     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
>     >
>     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
>     1999
>     >
>     > ---
>     > title: Reference order illustration
>     >
>     > references:
>     > - id: RFC1149
>     >   call-number: RFC 1149
>     >   title: Avian Carriers
>     >   publisher: IETF
>     >   issued: {year: 1990}
>     >
>     > - id: RFC2549
>     >   call-number: RFC 2549
>     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>     >   publisher: IETF
>     >   issued: {year: 1999}
>     > ...
>     >
>     > # Text
>     >
>     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
>     >
>     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
>     >
>     > # References
>     >
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
  2022-01-24 10:32         ` Bastien DUMONT
@ 2022-01-24 12:59           ` William Lupton
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-01-24 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks Bastien. Please see below:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#sorting


Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:

  <citation>
    <layout delimiter="; ">
      <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
      <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
        <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
        <text variable="citation-number"/>
      </group>
    </layout>
  </citation>

  <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
    <sort>
      <key variable="citation-number"/>
    </sort>
    <layout>
      <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
            display="left-margin"/>
      <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
        <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
        <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
        <text variable="publisher"/>
        <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
        <text variable="URL"/>
      </group>
    </layout>
  </bibliography>


> "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted order
> (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
>

Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the markdown
shown below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number,
which appears to be order of reference):

[1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
[2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990

...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):

[1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
[2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999

Markdown:

---
title: Reference order illustration

references:
- id: RFC1149
  call-number: RFC 1149
  title: Avian Carriers
  publisher: IETF
  issued: {year: 1990}

- id: RFC2549
  call-number: RFC 2549
  title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
  publisher: IETF
  issued: {year: 1999}
...

# Text

This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].

This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].

# References


> Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2, 3
> etc. as
> > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1]
> bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable
> address your
> >     need?
> >     [2]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
> >     toc-entry-92
> >
> >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> >     > All,
> >     >
> >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which
> means
> >     that
> >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.
> >     >
> >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still
> labeled 1,
> >     2, 3...
> >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a
> >     numeric
> >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort
> key).
> >     >
> >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it
> could be
> >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
> 'sorted-number'
> >     (or
> >     > similar) variable.)
> >     >
> >     > Any ideas?
> >     >
> >     > Thanks,
> >     > William
> >     >
> >     > ---- example ----
> >     >
> >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives
> this
> >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
> >     >
> >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
> IETF,
> >     1999
> >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >
> >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >     >
> >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
> IETF,
> >     1999
> >     >
> >     > ---
> >     > title: Reference order illustration
> >     >
> >     > references:
> >     > - id: RFC1149
> >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >     >   title: Avian Carriers
> >     >   publisher: IETF
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> >     >
> >     > - id: RFC2549
> >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
> >     > ...
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> >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
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@ 2022-01-24 13:59               ` Bastien DUMONT
  2022-01-24 17:17                 ` William Lupton
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2022-01-24 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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If you want to sort by call-number, so you should replace <key variable="citation-number"/> with <key variable="call-number"/>.

Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 12:59:05PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> Thanks Bastien. Please see below:
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <[1]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.orgt>
> wrote:
> 
>     OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
>     [2]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#sorting
> 
> 
> Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:
> 
>   <citation>
>     <layout delimiter="; ">
>       <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
>       <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
>         <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
>         <text variable="citation-number"/>
>       </group>
>     </layout>
>   </citation>
> 
>   <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
>     <sort>
>       <key variable="citation-number"/>
>     </sort>
>     <layout>
>       <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
>             display="left-margin"/>
>       <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
>         <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
>         <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
>         <text variable="publisher"/>
>         <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
>         <text variable="URL"/>
>       </group>
>     </layout>
>   </bibliography>
>  
> 
>     "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted order
>     (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
> 
> 
> Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the markdown shown
> below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number, which appears
> to be order of reference):
> 
> [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
> [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> 
> ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> 
> [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF, 1999
> 
> Markdown:
> 
> ---
> title: Reference order illustration
> 
> references:
> - id: RFC1149
>   call-number: RFC 1149
>   title: Avian Carriers
>   publisher: IETF
>   issued: {year: 1990}
> 
> - id: RFC2549
>   call-number: RFC 2549
>   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>   publisher: IETF
>   issued: {year: 1999}
> ...
> 
> # Text
> 
> This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> 
> This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> 
> # References
>  
> 
>     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2, 3 etc.
>     as
>     > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
>     >
>     > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1][3]
>     bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable
>     address your
>     >     need?
>     >     [2][4]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
>     >     toc-entry-92
>     >
>     >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     >     > All,
>     >     >
>     >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations, which
>     means
>     >     that
>     >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were cited.
>     >     >
>     >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still
>     labeled 1,
>     >     2, 3...
>     >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently require a
>     >     numeric
>     >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of sort
>     key).
>     >     >
>     >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it could
>     be
>     >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
>     'sorted-number'
>     >     (or
>     >     > similar) variable.)
>     >     >
>     >     > Any ideas?
>     >     >
>     >     > Thanks,
>     >     > William
>     >     >
>     >     > ---- example ----
>     >     >
>     >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply) gives
>     this
>     >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
>     >     >
>     >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
>     IETF,
>     >     1999
>     >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     >
>     >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
>     >     >
>     >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
>     IETF,
>     >     1999
>     >     >
>     >     > ---
>     >     > title: Reference order illustration
>     >     >
>     >     > references:
>     >     > - id: RFC1149
>     >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
>     >     >   title: Avian Carriers
>     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
>     >     >
>     >     > - id: RFC2549
>     >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
>     >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
>     >     > ...
>     >     >
>     >     > # Text
>     >     >
>     >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
>     >     >
>     >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
>     >     >
>     >     > # References
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
  2022-01-24 13:59               ` Bastien DUMONT
@ 2022-01-24 17:17                 ` William Lupton
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I want to sort by call number but I want to label the citations 1, 2 etc.
where the 1, 2 etc. correspond to the sorted call numbers.

If I do what you suggest, won't my bibliography items be labelled with
non-monotonically-increasing numbers?

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:01, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> If you want to sort by call-number, so you should replace <key
> variable="citation-number"/> with <key variable="call-number"/>.
>
> Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 12:59:05PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > Thanks Bastien. Please see below:
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <[1]
> bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
> >     [2]
> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#sorting
> >
> >
> > Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:
> >
> >   <citation>
> >     <layout delimiter="; ">
> >       <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
> >       <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
> >         <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
> >         <text variable="citation-number"/>
> >       </group>
> >     </layout>
> >   </citation>
> >
> >   <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
> >     <sort>
> >       <key variable="citation-number"/>
> >     </sort>
> >     <layout>
> >       <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
> >             display="left-margin"/>
> >       <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
> >         <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
> >         <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
> >         <text variable="publisher"/>
> >         <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
> >         <text variable="URL"/>
> >       </group>
> >     </layout>
> >   </bibliography>
> >
> >
> >     "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted
> order
> >     (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
> >
> >
> > Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the
> markdown shown
> > below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number, which
> appears
> > to be order of reference):
> >
> > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
> 1999
> > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >
> > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >
> > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
> 1999
> >
> > Markdown:
> >
> > ---
> > title: Reference order illustration
> >
> > references:
> > - id: RFC1149
> >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >   title: Avian Carriers
> >   publisher: IETF
> >   issued: {year: 1990}
> >
> > - id: RFC2549
> >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >   publisher: IETF
> >   issued: {year: 1999}
> > ...
> >
> > # Text
> >
> > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >
> > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >
> > # References
> >
> >
> >     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
> >     > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2,
> 3 etc.
> >     as
> >     > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
> >     >
> >     > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1][3]
> >     bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> >     > wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable
> >     address your
> >     >     need?
> >     >     [2][4]
> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
> >     >     toc-entry-92
> >     >
> >     >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit
> :
> >     >     > All,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations,
> which
> >     means
> >     >     that
> >     >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were
> cited.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still
> >     labeled 1,
> >     >     2, 3...
> >     >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently
> require a
> >     >     numeric
> >     >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of
> sort
> >     key).
> >     >     >
> >     >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL,
> it could
> >     be
> >     >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
> >     'sorted-number'
> >     >     (or
> >     >     > similar) variable.)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Any ideas?
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Thanks,
> >     >     > William
> >     >     >
> >     >     > ---- example ----
> >     >     >
> >     >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply)
> gives
> >     this
> >     >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
> >     >     >
> >     >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
> Service,
> >     IETF,
> >     >     1999
> >     >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >     >
> >     >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >     >     >
> >     >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
> Service,
> >     IETF,
> >     >     1999
> >     >     >
> >     >     > ---
> >     >     > title: Reference order illustration
> >     >     >
> >     >     > references:
> >     >     > - id: RFC1149
> >     >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >     >     >   title: Avian Carriers
> >     >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
> >     >     >
> >     >     > - id: RFC2549
> >     >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >     >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >     >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
> >     >     > ...
> >     >     >
> >     >     > # Text
> >     >     >
> >     >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >     >     >
> >     >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >     >     >
> >     >     > # References
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
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@ 2022-01-24 18:10                     ` Bastien DUMONT
  2022-01-25  9:49                       ` William Lupton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2022-01-24 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw

Sorry, I don't understand your question, but please try it out, and if the result doesn't match your needs, show the result you get with your example file, the expected result, and your whole CSL file.

Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 05:17:55PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> I want to sort by call number but I want to label the citations 1, 2 etc. where
> the 1, 2 etc. correspond to the sorted call numbers.
> 
> If I do what you suggest, won't my bibliography items be labelled with
> non-monotonically-increasing numbers?
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:01, Bastien DUMONT <[1]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.orgt>
> wrote:
> 
>     If you want to sort by call-number, so you should replace <key variable=
>     "citation-number"/> with <key variable="call-number"/>.
> 
>     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 12:59:05PM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     > Thanks Bastien. Please see below:
>     >
>     > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <[1][2]
>     bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
>     >     [2][3]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
>     sorting
>     >
>     >
>     > Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:
>     >
>     >   <citation>
>     >     <layout delimiter="; ">
>     >       <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
>     >       <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
>     >         <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
>     >         <text variable="citation-number"/>
>     >       </group>
>     >     </layout>
>     >   </citation>
>     >
>     >   <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
>     >     <sort>
>     >       <key variable="citation-number"/>
>     >     </sort>
>     >     <layout>
>     >       <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
>     >             display="left-margin"/>
>     >       <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
>     >         <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
>     >         <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
>     >         <text variable="publisher"/>
>     >         <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
>     >         <text variable="URL"/>
>     >       </group>
>     >     </layout>
>     >   </bibliography>
>     >  
>     >
>     >     "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted
>     order
>     >     (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
>     >
>     >
>     > Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the markdown
>     shown
>     > below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number, which
>     appears
>     > to be order of reference):
>     >
>     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
>     1999
>     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >
>     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
>     >
>     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
>     1999
>     >
>     > Markdown:
>     >
>     > ---
>     > title: Reference order illustration
>     >
>     > references:
>     > - id: RFC1149
>     >   call-number: RFC 1149
>     >   title: Avian Carriers
>     >   publisher: IETF
>     >   issued: {year: 1990}
>     >
>     > - id: RFC2549
>     >   call-number: RFC 2549
>     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>     >   publisher: IETF
>     >   issued: {year: 1999}
>     > ...
>     >
>     > # Text
>     >
>     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
>     >
>     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
>     >
>     > # References
>     >  
>     >
>     >     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     >     > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2,
>     3 etc.
>     >     as
>     >     > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
>     >     >
>     >     > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1][3]
>     >     [4]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable
>     >     address your
>     >     >     need?
>     >     >     [2][4][5]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/
>     specification.html#
>     >     >     toc-entry-92
>     >     >
>     >     >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit
>     :
>     >     >     > All,
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations,
>     which
>     >     means
>     >     >     that
>     >     >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were
>     cited.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still
>     >     labeled 1,
>     >     >     2, 3...
>     >     >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently
>     require a
>     >     >     numeric
>     >     >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of
>     sort
>     >     key).
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it
>     could
>     >     be
>     >     >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
>     >     'sorted-number'
>     >     >     (or
>     >     >     > similar) variable.)
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Any ideas?
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > Thanks,
>     >     >     > William
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > ---- example ----
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply)
>     gives
>     >     this
>     >     >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
>     Service,
>     >     IETF,
>     >     >     1999
>     >     >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
>     Service,
>     >     IETF,
>     >     >     1999
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > ---
>     >     >     > title: Reference order illustration
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > references:
>     >     >     > - id: RFC1149
>     >     >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
>     >     >     >   title: Avian Carriers
>     >     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > - id: RFC2549
>     >     >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
>     >     >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>     >     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
>     >     >     > ...
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > # Text
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
  2022-01-24 18:10                     ` Bastien DUMONT
@ 2022-01-25  9:49                       ` William Lupton
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-01-25  9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Bastien,

It's exactly as you say. For some reason I was "certain" that the citation
number was assigned by order of first citation in the document, but that's
just wrong (*). Sorting by call number gives me exactly what I want.

Many apologies for wasting your (and everyone else's) time.

Cheers,
William

(*) I suppose that my assumption was correct when sorting on citation
number, but I now realise that this never made any sense!

On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 18:11, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> Sorry, I don't understand your question, but please try it out, and if the
> result doesn't match your needs, show the result you get with your example
> file, the expected result, and your whole CSL file.
>
> Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 05:17:55PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > I want to sort by call number but I want to label the citations 1, 2
> etc. where
> > the 1, 2 etc. correspond to the sorted call numbers.
> >
> > If I do what you suggest, won't my bibliography items be labelled with
> > non-monotonically-increasing numbers?
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:01, Bastien DUMONT <[1]
> bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >     If you want to sort by call-number, so you should replace <key
> variable=
> >     "citation-number"/> with <key variable="call-number"/>.
> >
> >     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 12:59:05PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> >     > Thanks Bastien. Please see below:
> >     >
> >     > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <[1][2]
> >     bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> >     > wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
> >     >     [2][3]
> https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
> >     sorting
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:
> >     >
> >     >   <citation>
> >     >     <layout delimiter="; ">
> >     >       <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
> >     >       <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
> >     >         <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
> >     >         <text variable="citation-number"/>
> >     >       </group>
> >     >     </layout>
> >     >   </citation>
> >     >
> >     >   <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
> >     >     <sort>
> >     >       <key variable="citation-number"/>
> >     >     </sort>
> >     >     <layout>
> >     >       <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
> >     >             display="left-margin"/>
> >     >       <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
> >     >         <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
> >     >         <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
> >     >         <text variable="publisher"/>
> >     >         <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
> >     >         <text variable="URL"/>
> >     >       </group>
> >     >     </layout>
> >     >   </bibliography>
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the
> sorted
> >     order
> >     >     (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the
> markdown
> >     shown
> >     > below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number,
> which
> >     appears
> >     > to be order of reference):
> >     >
> >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
> IETF,
> >     1999
> >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >
> >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >     >
> >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
> IETF,
> >     1999
> >     >
> >     > Markdown:
> >     >
> >     > ---
> >     > title: Reference order illustration
> >     >
> >     > references:
> >     > - id: RFC1149
> >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >     >   title: Avian Carriers
> >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
> >     >
> >     > - id: RFC2549
> >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
> >     > ...
> >     >
> >     > # Text
> >     >
> >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >     >
> >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >     >
> >     > # References
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit
> :
> >     >     > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values
> 1, 2,
> >     3 etc.
> >     >     as
> >     >     > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1][3]
> >     >     [4]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> >     >     > wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number'
> variable
> >     >     address your
> >     >     >     need?
> >     >     >     [2][4][5]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/
> >     specification.html#
> >     >     >     toc-entry-92
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a
> écrit
> >     :
> >     >     >     > All,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort
> citations,
> >     which
> >     >     means
> >     >     >     that
> >     >     >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were
> >     cited.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but
> still
> >     >     labeled 1,
> >     >     >     2, 3...
> >     >     >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would
> apparently
> >     require a
> >     >     >     numeric
> >     >     >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order
> (regardless of
> >     sort
> >     >     key).
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard
> CSL, it
> >     could
> >     >     be
> >     >     >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
> >     >     'sorted-number'
> >     >     >     (or
> >     >     >     > similar) variable.)
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Any ideas?
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Thanks,
> >     >     >     > William
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > ---- example ----
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could
> supply)
> >     gives
> >     >     this
> >     >     >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
> >     Service,
> >     >     IETF,
> >     >     >     1999
> >     >     >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >     >     >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
> >     Service,
> >     >     IETF,
> >     >     >     1999
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > ---
> >     >     >     > title: Reference order illustration
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > references:
> >     >     >     > - id: RFC1149
> >     >     >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
> >     >     >     >   title: Avian Carriers
> >     >     >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >     >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > - id: RFC2549
> >     >     >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
> >     >     >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> >     >     >     >   publisher: IETF
> >     >     >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
> >     >     >     > ...
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > # Text
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > # References
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> >     > [2] [36]
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> >     > [4] [38]
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> > [36]
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* Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
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@ 2022-01-25 10:05                           ` Bastien DUMONT
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From: Bastien DUMONT @ 2022-01-25 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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No problem: indeed, the name of the variable is quite misleading. We just would have settled the problem more rapidly if you had joined the CSL file or reproduced you "bibliography" macro in your first message ;-) Have a happy writing now!

Le Tuesday 25 January 2022 à 09:49:39AM, William Lupton a écrit :
> Bastien,
> 
> It's exactly as you say. For some reason I was "certain" that the citation
> number was assigned by order of first citation in the document, but that's just
> wrong (*). Sorting by call number gives me exactly what I want.
> 
> Many apologies for wasting your (and everyone else's) time.
> 
> Cheers,
> William
> 
> (*) I suppose that my assumption was correct when sorting on citation number,
> but I now realise that this never made any sense!
> 
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 18:11, Bastien DUMONT <[1]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.orgt>
> wrote:
> 
>     Sorry, I don't understand your question, but please try it out, and if the
>     result doesn't match your needs, show the result you get with your example
>     file, the expected result, and your whole CSL file.
> 
>     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 05:17:55PM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     > I want to sort by call number but I want to label the citations 1, 2 etc.
>     where
>     > the 1, 2 etc. correspond to the sorted call numbers.
>     >
>     > If I do what you suggest, won't my bibliography items be labelled with
>     > non-monotonically-increasing numbers?
>     >
>     > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:01, Bastien DUMONT <[1][2]
>     bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >     If you want to sort by call-number, so you should replace <key
>     variable=
>     >     "citation-number"/> with <key variable="call-number"/>.
>     >
>     >     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 12:59:05PM, William Lupton a écrit :
>     >     > Thanks Bastien. Please see below:
>     >     >
>     >     > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <[1][2]
>     >     [3]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>     >     > wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >     OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
>     >     >     [2][3][4]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/
>     specification.html#
>     >     sorting
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:
>     >     >
>     >     >   <citation>
>     >     >     <layout delimiter="; ">
>     >     >       <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
>     >     >       <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
>     >     >         <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
>     >     >         <text variable="citation-number"/>
>     >     >       </group>
>     >     >     </layout>
>     >     >   </citation>
>     >     >
>     >     >   <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
>     >     >     <sort>
>     >     >       <key variable="citation-number"/>
>     >     >     </sort>
>     >     >     <layout>
>     >     >       <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
>     >     >             display="left-margin"/>
>     >     >       <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
>     >     >         <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
>     >     >         <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
>     >     >         <text variable="publisher"/>
>     >     >         <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
>     >     >         <text variable="URL"/>
>     >     >       </group>
>     >     >     </layout>
>     >     >   </bibliography>
>     >     >  
>     >     >
>     >     >     "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the
>     sorted
>     >     order
>     >     >     (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the
>     markdown
>     >     shown
>     >     > below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number,
>     which
>     >     appears
>     >     > to be order of reference):
>     >     >
>     >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
>     IETF,
>     >     1999
>     >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     >
>     >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
>     >     >
>     >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service,
>     IETF,
>     >     1999
>     >     >
>     >     > Markdown:
>     >     >
>     >     > ---
>     >     > title: Reference order illustration
>     >     >
>     >     > references:
>     >     > - id: RFC1149
>     >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
>     >     >   title: Avian Carriers
>     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
>     >     >
>     >     > - id: RFC2549
>     >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
>     >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
>     >     > ...
>     >     >
>     >     > # Text
>     >     >
>     >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
>     >     >
>     >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
>     >     >
>     >     > # References
>     >     >  
>     >     >
>     >     >     Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit
>     :
>     >     >     > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values
>     1, 2,
>     >     3 etc.
>     >     >     as
>     >     >     > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1][3]
>     >     >     [4][5]bastien.dumont@posteo.net>
>     >     >     > wrote:
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number'
>     variable
>     >     >     address your
>     >     >     >     need?
>     >     >     >     [2][4][5][6]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/
>     >     specification.html#
>     >     >     >     toc-entry-92
>     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a
>     écrit
>     >     :
>     >     >     >     > All,
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > I've been using citation-number to label and sort
>     citations,
>     >     which
>     >     >     means
>     >     >     >     that
>     >     >     >     > citations are presented in the order in which they were
>     >     cited.
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but
>     still
>     >     >     labeled 1,
>     >     >     >     2, 3...
>     >     >     >     > However, I can't see how to do this: it would
>     apparently
>     >     require a
>     >     >     >     numeric
>     >     >     >     > variable that corresponds to the sorted order
>     (regardless of
>     >     sort
>     >     >     key).
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard
>     CSL, it
>     >     could
>     >     >     be
>     >     >     >     > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
>     >     >     'sorted-number'
>     >     >     >     (or
>     >     >     >     > similar) variable.)
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Any ideas?
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > Thanks,
>     >     >     >     > William
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > ---- example ----
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could
>     supply)
>     >     gives
>     >     >     this
>     >     >     >     > (citations sorted by order of reference):
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > [1]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
>     >     Service,
>     >     >     IETF,
>     >     >     >     1999
>     >     >     >     > [2]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > [1]    RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
>     >     >     >     > [2]    RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
>     >     Service,
>     >     >     IETF,
>     >     >     >     1999
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > ---
>     >     >     >     > title: Reference order illustration
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > references:
>     >     >     >     > - id: RFC1149
>     >     >     >     >   call-number: RFC 1149
>     >     >     >     >   title: Avian Carriers
>     >     >     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >     >     >   issued: {year: 1990}
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > - id: RFC2549
>     >     >     >     >   call-number: RFC 2549
>     >     >     >     >   title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
>     >     >     >     >   publisher: IETF
>     >     >     >     >   issued: {year: 1999}
>     >     >     >     > ...
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > # Text
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
>     >     >     >     >
>     >     >     >     > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
>     >     >     >     >
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