From: Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Can citations be sorted by call-number but be labeled with a corresponding increasing integer?
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:10:14 +0000 [thread overview]
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Sorry, I don't understand your question, but please try it out, and if the result doesn't match your needs, show the result you get with your example file, the expected result, and your whole CSL file.
Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 05:17:55PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> I want to sort by call number but I want to label the citations 1, 2 etc. where
> the 1, 2 etc. correspond to the sorted call numbers.
>
> If I do what you suggest, won't my bibliography items be labelled with
> non-monotonically-increasing numbers?
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:01, Bastien DUMONT <[1]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.orgt>
> wrote:
>
> If you want to sort by call-number, so you should replace <key variable=
> "citation-number"/> with <key variable="call-number"/>.
>
> Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 12:59:05PM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > Thanks Bastien. Please see below:
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 10:34, Bastien DUMONT <[1][2]
> bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > OK, so have you set instructions for sorting in your CSL file?
> > [2][3]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/specification.html#
> sorting
> >
> >
> > Yes. Let me share the relevant bits of my csl file:
> >
> > <citation>
> > <layout delimiter="; ">
> > <text variable="title-short" suffix=" "/>
> > <group prefix="[" suffix="]">
> > <text variable="locator" suffix="/"/>
> > <text variable="citation-number"/>
> > </group>
> > </layout>
> > </citation>
> >
> > <bibliography entry-spacing="0">
> > <sort>
> > <key variable="citation-number"/>
> > </sort>
> > <layout>
> > <text variable="citation-number" prefix="[" suffix="]"
> > display="left-margin"/>
> > <group delimiter=", " display="right-inline">
> > <text variable="call-number" text-decoration="underline"/>
> > <text variable="title" font-style="italic"/>
> > <text variable="publisher"/>
> > <date date-parts="year" form="text" variable="issued"/>
> > <text variable="URL"/>
> > </group>
> > </layout>
> > </bibliography>
> >
> >
> > "citation-number" is the "variable that corresponds to the sorted
> order
> > (regardless of sort key)" that you are looking for.
> >
> >
> > Hmm. But is it? In my example (repeated here for simplicity) the markdown
> shown
> > below and my CSL gives this (citations sorted by citation-number, which
> appears
> > to be order of reference):
> >
> > [1] RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
> 1999
> > [2] RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> >
> > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> >
> > [1] RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> > [2] RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service, IETF,
> 1999
> >
> > Markdown:
> >
> > ---
> > title: Reference order illustration
> >
> > references:
> > - id: RFC1149
> > call-number: RFC 1149
> > title: Avian Carriers
> > publisher: IETF
> > issued: {year: 1990}
> >
> > - id: RFC2549
> > call-number: RFC 2549
> > title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> > publisher: IETF
> > issued: {year: 1999}
> > ...
> >
> > # Text
> >
> > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> >
> > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> >
> > # References
> >
> >
> > Le Monday 24 January 2022 à 10:01:21AM, William Lupton a écrit :
> > > That's what I'm currently using :). It's assigned the values 1, 2,
> 3 etc.
> > as
> > > citations are encountered (please see my example). Thanks, W.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 17:37, Bastien DUMONT <[1][3]
> > [4]bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have not tested, but does the CSL 'citation-number' variable
> > address your
> > > need?
> > > [2][4][5]https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/v1.0.2/
> specification.html#
> > > toc-entry-92
> > >
> > > Le Friday 21 January 2022 à 04:36:56PM, William Lupton a écrit
> :
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > I've been using citation-number to label and sort citations,
> which
> > means
> > > that
> > > > citations are presented in the order in which they were
> cited.
> > > >
> > > > I'd prefer to have citations sorted by call-number but still
> > labeled 1,
> > > 2, 3...
> > > > However, I can't see how to do this: it would apparently
> require a
> > > numeric
> > > > variable that corresponds to the sorted order (regardless of
> sort
> > key).
> > > >
> > > > (It seems that, if this isn't possible using standard CSL, it
> could
> > be
> > > > addressed by asking citeproc to support a non-standard
> > 'sorted-number'
> > > (or
> > > > similar) variable.)
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > > ---- example ----
> > > >
> > > > With the markdown shown below, my CSL (which I could supply)
> gives
> > this
> > > > (citations sorted by order of reference):
> > > >
> > > > [1] RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
> Service,
> > IETF,
> > > 1999
> > > > [2] RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> > > >
> > > > ...but I'd like this (citations sorted by call-number):
> > > >
> > > > [1] RFC 1149, Avian Carriers, IETF, 1990
> > > > [2] RFC 2549, IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of
> Service,
> > IETF,
> > > 1999
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > title: Reference order illustration
> > > >
> > > > references:
> > > > - id: RFC1149
> > > > call-number: RFC 1149
> > > > title: Avian Carriers
> > > > publisher: IETF
> > > > issued: {year: 1990}
> > > >
> > > > - id: RFC2549
> > > > call-number: RFC 2549
> > > > title: IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service
> > > > publisher: IETF
> > > > issued: {year: 1999}
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > # Text
> > > >
> > > > This is RFC 2549 [@RFC2549].
> > > >
> > > > This is RFC 1149 [@RFC1149].
> > > >
> > > > # References
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2022-01-21 16:36 William Lupton
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