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From: Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Single and double quotes in Context with British English
Date: Wed,  2 Aug 2023 18:19:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMqeG5N04dvzxiRd@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1f39c5a-624a-48d7-af9a-d4b7dd66f3bbn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>

What would the change be exactly?

Le Wednesday 02 August 2023 à 10:57:11AM, Thomas Hodgson a écrit :
> I wonder whether it would be feasible/desirable for the Context writer to
> change its mapping from DoubleQuote/SingleQuote to `\quotation`/`\quote` based
> on the language of the document? (And the same for `\enquote`/`\enquote*` for
> LaTeX.)
> 
> On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 18:27:38 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson wrote:
> 
>     Thank you.
> 
>     I tried this (included in my header) and I get the result I want visually
>     in the PDF:
> 
>     ```
>     \setuplanguage[en-gb][
>       leftquotation=“,
>       rightquotation=”,
>       leftquote=‘,
>       rightquote=’,
>     ]
>     ```
> 
>     On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 16:55:36 UTC+2 Bastien DUMONT wrote:
> 
>         As you saw in the ConTeXt outputs, whatever language you set in the
>         metadata, Pandoc will always identify double quotes as primary quotes
>         and single quotes as secondary quotes. How they are rendered in PDF
>         depends on ConTeXt. To alter the rendering of British English, you will
>         need to use the macro \setuplanguage ([1]https://wiki.contextgarden.net
>         /Command/setuplanguage).
> 
>         Le Wednesday 02 August 2023 à 07:10:40AM, Thomas Hodgson a écrit :
>         > When I have a markdown file like this:
>         >
>         > ```
>         > 'foo'
>         > "bar"
>         > ```
>         >
>         > The result of `pandoc --to=context foo.md` is `\quote{foo} \quotation
>         {bar}`.
>         > The result of `pandoc --to=context --output=foo.pdf foo.md` is what I
>         would
>         > expect: single quotes around 'foo' and double quotes around 'bar'.
>         The output
>         > of `pandoc --metadata=lang:en-GB --to=context foo.md` is the same.
>         But, the
>         > output of `pandoc --metadata=lang:en-GB --to=context --output=foo.pdf
>         foo.md`
>         > has double quotes around 'foo' and single quotes around 'bar'.
>         >
>         > I could solve this by using double quotes where I want single, and
>         vice versa.
>         > But that will give the wrong result for HTML from the same source.
>         Also, I'm
>         > sure that I would forget half the time.
>         >
>         > I assume that this happens because Pandoc treats the double quote as
>         the 'top'
>         > level of quotes, which in US English is a double quote and in UK
>         English (in
>         > this case, confusingly) is a single quote. I don't think it's a bug,
>         therefore.
>         >
>         > I think that the same thing happens with csquotes and LaTeX. But
>         there I don't
>         > turn on csquotes.
>         >
>         > Is there some way to get the behaviour I want while still using
>         British
>         > English?
>         >
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-08-02 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-02 14:10 Thomas Hodgson
     [not found] ` <6bf5b865-b98a-4eab-ac15-9ca58d38e6cfn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-02 14:55   ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-08-02 16:27     ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]       ` <a416671d-1c67-4f4b-97c4-24b18e440466n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-02 17:57         ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]           ` <a1f39c5a-624a-48d7-af9a-d4b7dd66f3bbn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-02 18:19             ` Bastien DUMONT [this message]
2023-08-02 18:54               ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]                 ` <1513fe42-80ad-4acd-bb53-85a04ed52a7cn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-02 19:23                   ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-08-02 20:26                   ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                     ` <8e63fe5e-de8b-1bdb-27d7-60fab49f2b7b-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-03  9:46                       ` Thomas Hodgson
     [not found]                         ` <d9bcf5be-c7f3-4225-ab9e-0d4cdc8de1e6n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-03 10:16                           ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-08-03 14:23                             ` Thomas Hodgson
2023-08-02 19:33             ` BPJ
2023-08-02 17:50   ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]     ` <fc349c18-6989-67be-6a64-e701b4a06d16-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2023-08-02 18:54       ` Thomas Hodgson

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