From: Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Single and double quotes in Context with British English
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 18:19:07 +0000 [thread overview]
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What would the change be exactly?
Le Wednesday 02 August 2023 à 10:57:11AM, Thomas Hodgson a écrit :
> I wonder whether it would be feasible/desirable for the Context writer to
> change its mapping from DoubleQuote/SingleQuote to `\quotation`/`\quote` based
> on the language of the document? (And the same for `\enquote`/`\enquote*` for
> LaTeX.)
>
> On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 18:27:38 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson wrote:
>
> Thank you.
>
> I tried this (included in my header) and I get the result I want visually
> in the PDF:
>
> ```
> \setuplanguage[en-gb][
> leftquotation=“,
> rightquotation=”,
> leftquote=‘,
> rightquote=’,
> ]
> ```
>
> On Wednesday, 2 August 2023 at 16:55:36 UTC+2 Bastien DUMONT wrote:
>
> As you saw in the ConTeXt outputs, whatever language you set in the
> metadata, Pandoc will always identify double quotes as primary quotes
> and single quotes as secondary quotes. How they are rendered in PDF
> depends on ConTeXt. To alter the rendering of British English, you will
> need to use the macro \setuplanguage ([1]https://wiki.contextgarden.net
> /Command/setuplanguage).
>
> Le Wednesday 02 August 2023 à 07:10:40AM, Thomas Hodgson a écrit :
> > When I have a markdown file like this:
> >
> > ```
> > 'foo'
> > "bar"
> > ```
> >
> > The result of `pandoc --to=context foo.md` is `\quote{foo} \quotation
> {bar}`.
> > The result of `pandoc --to=context --output=foo.pdf foo.md` is what I
> would
> > expect: single quotes around 'foo' and double quotes around 'bar'.
> The output
> > of `pandoc --metadata=lang:en-GB --to=context foo.md` is the same.
> But, the
> > output of `pandoc --metadata=lang:en-GB --to=context --output=foo.pdf
> foo.md`
> > has double quotes around 'foo' and single quotes around 'bar'.
> >
> > I could solve this by using double quotes where I want single, and
> vice versa.
> > But that will give the wrong result for HTML from the same source.
> Also, I'm
> > sure that I would forget half the time.
> >
> > I assume that this happens because Pandoc treats the double quote as
> the 'top'
> > level of quotes, which in US English is a double quote and in UK
> English (in
> > this case, confusingly) is a single quote. I don't think it's a bug,
> therefore.
> >
> > I think that the same thing happens with csquotes and LaTeX. But
> there I don't
> > turn on csquotes.
> >
> > Is there some way to get the behaviour I want while still using
> British
> > English?
> >
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2023-08-02 14:10 Thomas Hodgson
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2023-08-02 14:55 ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-08-02 16:27 ` Thomas Hodgson
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2023-08-02 17:57 ` Thomas Hodgson
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2023-08-02 18:19 ` Bastien DUMONT [this message]
2023-08-02 18:54 ` Thomas Hodgson
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2023-08-02 19:23 ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-08-02 20:26 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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2023-08-03 9:46 ` Thomas Hodgson
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2023-08-03 10:16 ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-08-03 14:23 ` Thomas Hodgson
2023-08-02 19:33 ` BPJ
2023-08-02 17:50 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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2023-08-02 18:54 ` Thomas Hodgson
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