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[185.70.40.136]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o4si906094wrp.4.2019.08.20.00.06.23 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Aug 2019 00:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org designates 185.70.40.136 as permitted sender) client-ip=185.70.40.136; In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: T7I7uPR9W9evC_OcG8CBOCN9yIeN-ZcL5eoBW0Yo0yb1KBuFiWJHPOG_haM_8t-U8KFedKZ5MEsM7XTOyk4nhw==:Ext:ProtonMail X-Original-Sender: njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@protonmail.com header.s=default header.b="lj6Lx0L/"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org designates 185.70.40.136 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=njbart-g/b1ySJe57IN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=protonmail.com X-Original-From: Nick Bart Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.text.pandoc:23279 Archived-At: To the best of my knowledge, CSL does not provide any mechanisms for dealin= g with relations between different items. (For example, that=E2=80=99s why = pandoc-citeproc needs to pull all the data from a `crossref`ed item and fol= d it into the `crossref`ing item when translating from bibtex/biblatex to C= SL JSON/YAML.) CSL-M has =E2=80=9C`cs:alternative` to add supplementary reference informat= ion to a cited item, such as a translation or reprint=E2=80=9D (https://cit= eproc-js.readthedocs.io/en/latest/csl-m/index.html#cs-alternative-extension= ), but even if we were to consider adding CSL-M extensions to pandoc-citepr= oc, we would still have to fold all the information from a number of differ= ent biblatex items (translation/reprint; orig. lang. version; earlier print= ; =E2=80=A6) into one CSL JSON/YAML item. Anyone who sees this a unsatisfactory could of course submit a proposal for= enhancing CSL itself (https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/is= sues). =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original Me= ssage =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:17 AM, John MacFarlane wro= te: > The question is whether CSL has any variables corresponding to > these things. > > http://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#standard-vari= ables > > If so, we could try to be smarter about translating from > bibtex/biblatex to citeproc json. If not, then it's out of scope > for pandoc-citeproc. > > Guido Milanese guido.milanese-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org writes: > > > I am seriously experimenting pandoc filter "citeproc" as an interesting > > alternative to the workflow I am more used to, i.e. markdown to write a= nd > > then compilation -- through pandoc -- as LaTeX + biber + Biblatex. I > > noticed that the filter supports the BibTeX "crossref" field (e.g. an > > article published in a volume of Proceedings) but not the "related" fie= lds, > > such as "translationof", "multivolume" and the like. Is this feature > > planned? This would be a great advantage for those who save data in Bib= TeX > > format. > > Thank you. 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