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From: Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: WIP: better citation processing
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 19:30:19 +0200	[thread overview]
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Awesome. Thanks. We should also add this to the ConTeXt writer.

Side issue: Why is the Frege example "Über sinn und bedeutung" sentence 
cased?

Best,
Denis


Am 17.09.2020 um 19:18 schrieb John MacFarlane:
> Progress report: I've added support for CSL display attributes to the 
> LaTeX writer in the citeproc branch.   (Still TODO: docx, HTML, others?)
> Some examples:
>
> Screen Shot 2020-09-17 at 10.12.43 AM.pngScreen Shot 2020-09-17 at 
> 10.13.22 AM.png
> Screen Shot 2020-09-17 at 10.13.44 AM.png
> On Tuesday, September 15, 2020 at 9:43:57 AM UTC-7 Denis Maier wrote:
>
>
>
>     Am 11.09.2020 um 22:58 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>     > Yes, we could definitely consider adding support for
>     > these things at a later date.
>     >
>     > By-section citations would actually be pretty easy.
>     Sounds great!
>
>     > Multiple bibliographies is also simple IF it's just
>     > a matter of separating items out of a formatted bibliography
>     > into several separate ones. But if it's going to affect
>     > things like disambiguation then it would be trickier.
>     As outlined on the github issue, I think a simple solution could be
>     allowing multiple bibliographies, each with filters applied that
>     either
>     exclude or include specific items based on different criteria.
>
>     >
>     > The cito thing seems more special-case, but maybe that too.
>     >
>     > Denis Maier <denis.ma...-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>     >
>     >> Am 11.09.2020 um 18:46 schrieb Albert Krewinkel:
>     >>> John MacFarlane writes:
>     >>>
>     >>>> It would be good to get clear on this. We could expose
>     >>>> a --citeproc and require it to be used to process citations.
>     >>>> That would also give control of order; it could be treated as
>     >>>> a built-in filter. So maybe it's the thing to do -- but I did
>     >>>> like the idea of doing it automatically.
>     >>> I agree, that's much nicer. Would an additional `--no-citeproc`
>     >>> option make sense? It could suppress the automatic run.
>     >>>
>     >>>> It should be pretty straightforward to expose this to Lua
>     >>>> filters. (But again, I'd be curious to hear why calling
>     >>>> manually from Lua filters would be needed.) At heart it's just a
>     >>>> Pandoc -> m Pandoc transformation in PandocMonad.
>     >>> Indeed, that should be really easy then. :)
>     >>>
>     >>> Lua filters which call out to pandoc-citeproc, or which rely on a
>     >>> special filter order:
>     >>>
>     >>> - cito: allows to add information about the semantic relation
>     of the
>     >>> cited work to the current document. Plugs into the citation
>     syntax and
>     >>> requires citation IDs to be rewritten before pandoc-citeproc is
>     >>> called.
>     >>>
>     >>> - section-refs: adds "References" for all first level
>     sections; creates
>     >>> temporary documents from sections, then calls
>     `pandoc-citeproc` on
>     >>> the temporary docs.
>     >>>
>     >>> - multiple-bibliographies: allows to partition references into
>     >>> categories; implementation is similar to section-refs.
>     >> Adding a `-citeproc` option would be a good option.
>     >> But that aside, I think that these particular filters (or
>     replacements
>     >> thereof) could/should be included in the new citeproc library.
>     >>
>     >>> --
>     >>> Albert Krewinkel
>     >>> GPG: 8eed e3e2 e8c5 6f18 81fe e836 388d c0b2 1f63 1124
>     >>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-17 17:30 UTC|newest]

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2020-08-16 22:59 John MacFarlane
2020-08-17 14:55 ` OT: " Anton Shepelev
     [not found] ` <m2mu2udwo9.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-17 14:31   ` James
     [not found]     ` <6F6F5A78-7473-473E-927F-46E2382FE979-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-17 23:17       ` Priv.-Doz. Dr. Maria Shinoto
2020-08-18  9:58   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]     ` <360dbe5b-f1ef-17f6-32e6-8c9f85204844-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 15:39       ` jcr
     [not found]         ` <46e97135-ea1f-469a-898a-eb24876c0708o-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 16:59           ` Denis Maier
     [not found]             ` <1ee49c20-ee12-4984-abdf-e00a9e4414e6o-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 18:13               ` FI Apps
     [not found]                 ` <D2ED4685-A7ED-4BB4-B651-D362B2564F62-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 21:14                   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                     ` <d59896f4-b360-9ef4-e751-d9dc912ee700-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19  8:37                       ` FI Apps
2020-08-19 12:47               ` James P. Ascher
     [not found]                 ` <1edca1a5-bb73-42b7-a61a-b02d2a1ec5dco-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19 13:12                   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                     ` <5d4b596a-b3ef-744c-bbae-564e490eb598-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19 13:37                       ` James P. Ascher
2020-08-21 19:41       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <m2mu2nbxcv.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-22  9:33           ` Denis Maier
     [not found]             ` <865f327e-d305-4409-dd6f-1659f6a884cc-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-08 18:15               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m2bligt9ra.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-09  7:51                   ` Gabriel Nützi
2020-09-09  9:10                   ` FI Apps
     [not found]                     ` <CAGOSsd=Xs6u6Xup9YugR-zd6FC_29QFs1asEcARA4m2UPts_vQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 15:12                       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                         ` <m2tuw4jqj1.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 16:02                           ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                             ` <87imckl2tg.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 16:24                               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                 ` <m2blicjn7p.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 16:46                                   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                                     ` <87ft7ol0rq.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 18:51                                       ` proposed --citeproc option John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                         ` <m21rj8jge2.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-12 15:56                                           ` BPJ
2020-09-11 20:31                                       ` WIP: better citation processing Denis Maier
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2020-09-11 20:58                                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                             ` <m2v9gkhvya.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 21:14                                               ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-11 21:21                                                   ` Denis Maier
2020-09-17 17:18                                                   ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-17 17:30                                                       ` Denis Maier [this message]
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     [not found]                                                             ` <86c0bfc6-4795-718c-5ddd-0e3ef0f91403@mailbox.org>
     [not found]                                                               ` <86c0bfc6-4795-718c-5ddd-0e3ef0f91403-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-17 19:20                                                                 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:45                                               ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:51                                               ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:26                       ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2020-08-20 12:29   ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]     ` <e94c6f9d-e6d8-099a-4bf2-7aed30476a6c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 19:06       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <m2v9hbbyyu.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 19:12           ` John MacFarlane
2020-08-21 21:21           ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]             ` <91c2cfed-7211-4194-72cf-5c01abf2315c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 23:03               ` John MacFarlane
2021-06-16 18:14           ` Joseph
     [not found]             ` <30abf74d-df6f-4df8-aaee-a493331d4e92n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-16 19:33               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m24kdx38qp.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-17 14:01                   ` Joseph Reagle
2020-09-24 16:10   ` WIP: better citation processing - nightlies now available for testing! John MacFarlane

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