Re: LaTeX: Individual words in Chinese script

["'Frederik Elwert' via pandoc-discuss" <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>]

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Thanks for the kind reply!

If I see it correctly, modern babel works fine with Chinese the same way as 
other languages. I wrote a small lua filter that inserts raw 
`\foreignlanguage`/`\begin{otherlanguage}` commands for chinese in the same 
way as pandoc by default does for other languages, and it works just fine. 
So maybe the best solution would be to simply add chinese to Lang.hs?

Also, I modified the template a little bit to support a `babelfonts` 
metadata structure. That allows to specify custom fonts for other scripts. 
Would something like this be acceptable for the default template?

You can see my solution in this gist: 
https://gist.github.com/frederik-elwert/fb1ab57bf88fa2c6dbd7253958b64014

An example patch for the template is attached.

If someone sees any issues with this approach, I’m glad if they could point 
them out. I don’t write Chinese myself, so I don’t know if there are subtle 
issues that I’m not aware of.





John MacFarlane schrieb am Freitag, 10. März 2023 um 19:17:56 UTC+1:

> Obviously, it is important to support this kind of thing. Can someone else 
> who uses pandoc with multiple scripts comment on how you handle this?
>
> One solution I see at
>
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/165197/russian-and-chinese-in-the-same-document
> is 
>
> \usepackage[encapsulated]{CJK}
>
> and then
>
> \begin{CJK}{UTF8}{gbsn}
> 你好
> \end{CJK}
>
> Perhaps you could use a Lua filter to convert [你好]{lang=zh} to this form?
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 10, 2023, at 2:35 AM, 'Frederik Elwert' via pandoc-discuss <
> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > 
> > We are typesetting a lot of academic texts which are mainly in English, 
> but contain words in other languages/scripts. At the moment, I need to 
> produce an article that contains individual words in traditional Chinese.
> > 
> > With pandoc, I currently face two issues:
> > 
> > First, chinese is not defined in Writers/LaTeX/Lang.hs. This means that, 
> in contrast to other scripts, I cannot use `[言]{lang="zh-Hant"}`. For other 
> languages that are defined, the LaTeX writer produces 
> `\foreignlanguage{}{}` commands, but in this case it produces only `{言}`. 
> Thus, the only possibility is to resort to `CJKmainfont`. The issue is that 
> this switches on xeCJK for the whole document, which has undesirable side 
> effects (mainly concerning spacing around punctuation characters). Thus, I 
> have to introduce manual `\makexeCJKactive`/`\makexeCJKinactive` commands 
> in my markdown source. For short passages of Chinese, it is actually 
> desirable not to use xeCJK, but simply babel, as with other scripts.
> > 
> > Second, I do not see a way to define fonts for other scripts. The 
> default LaTeX template calls `\babelprovide` for used fonts, but does not 
> allow to define corresponding `\babelfont`s. With the old polyglossia 
> system, IIRC, it was possible to use the `fontfamilies` metadata entry to 
> define `\chinesefont` etc. for additional scripts. But this does no longer 
> work with babel (if I’m not missing something).
> > 
> > So basically my question is twofold: First, how do I define additional 
> fonts for foreign scripts with the new babel system, and second, would it 
> be possible to support chinese script in the LaTeX writer in the same way 
> it supports other scripts?
> > Thanks,
> > Frederik
> > 
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--- default.tex	2023-03-10 21:20:49.332547333 +0100
+++ langtest_template.tex	2023-03-10 20:55:38.286983982 +0100
@@ -362,6 +362,9 @@
 $for(babel-otherlangs)$
 \babelprovide[import]{$babel-otherlangs$}
 $endfor$
+$for(babelfonts)$
+\babelfont[$babelfonts.language$]{rm}{$babelfonts.font$}
+$endfor$
 % get rid of language-specific shorthands (see #6817):
 \let\LanguageShortHands\languageshorthands
 \def\languageshorthands#1{}