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September 2021 16:51 An: pandoc-discuss Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed The style file does not carry an id. I believe that is the reason why Zoter= o does not want to load it. You can type there anything and Zotero loads. B= ut also, the content of the file can be copied to Zotero's style editor. Th= ere, it works. Zotero produces the expected output. Thanks for checking. Then it looks like a bug in pandoc=E2=80=99s citeproc,= or at least a discrepancy between citeproc-js and pandoc=E2=80=99s citepro= c. I am using Zotero 5.0.96.2 and Pandoc 2.14.1. On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:15:03 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont wrote: For me too, although the style appears to be valid once you replace the sla= sh by an underscore and can be used in the CSL style editor (https://editor= .citationstyles.org/codeEditor/). Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 02:07:29PM, denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org a =C3= =A9crit : > Just a side-issue: Checking your style with https://validator.citationsty= les.org/ gives me three errors though on "title-bib/cit". Probably not rela= ted, but anyway. > > FWIW, I've tried to cross-check with Zotero, but Zotero refuses to instal= l your style at all... > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > Im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:02 > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed > > > > Hm, sorry, I can't see what could be wrong here. The problem may come f= rom > > the fact that the disambiguation code is triggered in subsequent citati= ons (not > > in the bibliography, since the entries will be not be formatted in the = same way > > there). If it is true, you've found a bug, but I may have missed someth= ing. > > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 06:28:57AM, Hakan Da=C4=9Fdelen a= =C3=A9crit : > > > Thanks a lot for the promt relpy. > > > > > > I call it under citation and bibliography layout. Here is my CSL file= : > > > https:// pastebin.com/MdzdZLXs > > > > > > Here is a bib file in json: https://pastebin.com/GgWeVU1x > > > > > > And here is a bib file in tex: https://pastebin.com/YUb73afz > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:28:38 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont > > wrote: > > > > > > How do you call this macro? Could you provide a CSL file including it= and a > > > small example where it should be triggered? Normally it should work: = see > > > the related test in citeproc's test suite: [1]https://github.com/jgm/ > > > citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51ab9a1ed/test/csl/ > > > disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt > > > > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 03:09:14PM, hakan a =C3=A9crit = : > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I have the following macro in my CSL style file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use this macro in subsequent citations and bibliography. It helps= me > > > > to disambiguate works of authors cited with multiple works in citat= ions > > > > and to add a short title information at the end of the relevant > > > > bibliography entries. > > > > > > > > When I convert org or tex documents with Pandoc, this macro is igno= red > > > > and nothing gets printed at the relevant positions. I tried both > > > > CSL-json and biblatex files as bibliography files. Shorttitle field= s are > > > > filled in. > > > > > > > > How can I have this CSL macro work with Pandoc? > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > > > > > > > Hakan > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, s= end an > > > email > > > > to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [2][2]https://groups.googl= e.com/ > > > d/msgid/ > > > > pandoc-discuss/ > > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > BS%3D6yw%[3] > > > 40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > > [2] [4]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > BS%3D6yw%40mail.gmail.com? > > > utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d > > > an email to [5]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [6]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > > pandoc-discuss/635d04e9-a938-4e2d-8ac0- > > 81988c8402acn%40googlegroups.com. > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] > > > > > https://github.com/jgm/citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51 > > > ab9a1ed/test/csl/disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt > > > [2] https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > > [3] http://40mail.gmail.com/ > > > [4] > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1G > > > CC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > BS%3D6yw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=3Demail > > > &utm_source=3Dfooter [5] > > > mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > [6] > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/635d04e9-a938-4e2d-8= a > > > c0- > > 81988c8402acn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfoote<= http://40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfoote> > > r > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an > > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/YS%2BH5RUDtzym/o/t%40localhost. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgi= d/pandoc-discuss/9f7cdd53071b42cda9f394039bd293ae%40unibe.ch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Hakan Dagdelen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:51
An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed

 

The style file does not carry an id. I believe that = is the reason why Zotero does not want to load it. You can type there anyth= ing and Zotero loads. But also, the content of the file can be copied to Zot= ero's style editor. There, it works. Zotero produces the expected output.

Thanks for checking. Then it lo= oks like a bug in pandoc=E2=80=99s citeproc, or at least a discrepancy betw= een citeproc-js and pandoc=E2=80=99s citeproc.

 

I am using Zotero 5.0.96.2 and Pandoc 2.14.1.

 

On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:15:03 PM UTC= 3;3 Bastien Dumont wrote:

For me too, although the style appears to be valid o= nce you replace the slash by an underscore and can be used in the CSL style= editor (https://editor.citationstyles.org/codeEditor/).

Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 02:07:29PM, denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org a =C3=A9crit :
> Just a side-issue: Checking your style with https://validator.citationstyles.org/ gives me three errors though on &= quot;title-bib/cit". Probably not related, but anyway.
>
> FWIW, I've tried to cross-check with Zotero, but Zotero refuses to ins= tall your style at all...
>
> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
> > Im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:02
> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed
> >
> > Hm, sorry, I can't see what could be wrong here. The problem may = come from
> > the fact that the disambiguation code is triggered in subsequent = citations (not
> > in the bibliography, since the entries will be not be formatted i= n the same way
> > there). If it is true, you've found a bug, but I may have missed = something.
> >
> > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 06:28:57AM, Hakan Da=C4=9Fd= elen a =C3=A9crit :
> > > Thanks a lot for the promt relpy.
> > >
> > > I call it under citation and bibliography layout. Here is my= CSL file:
> > > https:// pastebin.com/MdzdZLXs
> > >
> > > Here is a bib file in json: https://pastebin.com/GgWeVU1x
> > >
> > > And here is a bib file in tex: https://pastebin.com/YUb73afz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:28:38 PM UTC+3 Bast= ien Dumont
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you call this macro? Could you provide a CSL file inc= luding it and a
> > > small example where it should be triggered? Normally it shou= ld work: see
> > > the related test in citeproc's test suite: [1]https://github.com/jgm/
> > > citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51ab9a1ed/test/= csl/
> > > disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt
> > >
> > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 03:09:14PM, hakan a = =C3=A9crit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have the following macro in my CSL style file:
> > > >
> > > >    <macro name=3D"disambiguate"&= gt;
> > > >      <choose>
> > > >        <if disambiguat= e=3D"true">
> > > >          <text va= riable=3D"title-short"/>
> > > >        </if>
> > > >      </choose>
> > > >    </macro>
> > > >
> > > > I use this macro in subsequent citations and bibliograp= hy. It helps me
> > > > to disambiguate works of authors cited with multiple wo= rks in citations
> > > > and to add a short title information at the end of the = relevant
> > > > bibliography entries.
> > > >
> > > > When I convert org or tex documents with Pandoc, this m= acro is ignored
> > > > and nothing gets printed at the relevant positions. I t= ried both
> > > > CSL-json and biblatex files as bibliography files. Shor= ttitle fields are
> > > > filled in.
> > > >
> > > > How can I have this CSL macro work with Pandoc?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Hakan
> > > >
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