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From: EBkysko <ebkysko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Moving footnotes to just after paragraph with the citation
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:11:24 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aa407627-870e-474e-856e-49559c74d46cn@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMwO0gw1W6_CHiCr8RGfDkLjt-dTg4y9dPkbU2UouZt=1Lj3Cg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>


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try (with markdown output 
<https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#options-affecting-specific-writers>)

```
--reference-location=block
``` 

On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 4:23:57 PM UTC-5 Gwern Branwen wrote:

> This seems possibly tricky? I don't know what the Lua filters can or 
> cannot do, but I'm not sure how one could solve this using just the Haskell 
> API... Pandoc was not designed as a source-2-source processor so it doesn't 
> make much effort to support Markdown-to-Markdown passes - like the obvious 
> roundtrip will potentially change your Markdown formatting to a 
> semantically-equivalent but entirely different-looking Markdown doc. 
> (Macfarlane has said repeatedly that this will not be changed.)
>
> In your case, footnotes throw away the positioning information.
> Consider the 3 possibilities:
>
>     Foo[^foo].
>
>     Foo bar^[Bar.]
>
>     Foo baz[^baz]
>
>     [^baz]: Baz.
>  
>     [^foo]: foo.
>
> This parses into:
>
> [ Para
>     [ Str "Foo" , Note [ Para [ Str "foo." ] ] , Str "." ]
> , Para
>     [ Str "Foo"
>     , Space
>     , Str "bar"
>     , Note [ Para [ Str "Bar." ] ]
>     ]
> , Para
>     [ Str "Foo"
>     , Space
>     , Str "baz"
>     , Note [ Para [ Str "Baz." ] ]
>     ]
> ]
>
> So you can't know 'where' a footnote body was put, whether at the end of 
> the doc or elsewhere.
>
> Further, Pandoc will write out the Markdown according to its own 
> conventions, which go opposite of what you want, by putting *all* footnote 
> bodies at the end, regardless of where they were or whether they could be 
> inline footnotes, and the Markdown writer probably takes no options which 
> would change that:
>
> Foo[^1].
>
> Foo bar[^2]
>
> Foo baz[^3]
>
> [^1]: foo.
>
> [^2]: Bar.
>
> [^3]: Baz.
>
> -- 
> gwern
> https://gwern.net <https://www.gwern.net>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-21 20:24 Lyndon Drake
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2023-11-21 21:23   ` Gwern Branwen
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2023-11-22  1:11       ` EBkysko [this message]
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2023-11-22  2:55           ` Lyndon Drake
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2023-11-22 12:23               ` EBkysko
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2023-11-22 12:54                   ` 'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss
     [not found]                     ` <CAEe_xxh74qC5fLmzhoMjS1gyWwyo=rSKVmbXTs--fH8me-EAeg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2023-11-23 16:21                       ` Lyndon Drake

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