Re: Pandoc, XeLaTex, and Hebrew Characters

[Alan Storm <alan.storm-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Thanks all for the help.  The close the loop on this for anyone coming 
along later on. 

1. Despite hearing it from several people, it took me a while to realize 
that pandoc, even when converting from tex to PDF, will still perform it's 
"munge this doc into an internal representation" sub-routines.  This means 
most of what you're doing in LaTeX gets lost, unless pandoc happens to 
understand it

2. Pandoc's default font doesn't support hebrew: 
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/3742

3. You can specify a font that does support pandoc via `-V mainfont:` : 
https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/375544/4689

4. If you're dealing with a document that has mixed english/hebrew you may 
be out of luck with pure pandoc, as you need to markup which sections 
contain hebrew and which contain english: 
https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/375498/4689

Thanks again for the help, and best wishes!

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 9:35:05 AM UTC-7, Alan Storm wrote:
>
> New to the group, and only (so far!) the most casual of pandoc users. I'm 
> having some trouble getting pandoc to do things that the xelatex command 
> can do.  I'm looking for someone (or someones) that can help get me to a 
> solution **and** explain what pandoc is doing behind the scenes so I can 
> debug these sort of problems in the future. 
>
> In short -- I have an tex document with some hebrew characters.  If I use 
> the  xelatex command directly to convert this document, the hebrew 
> characters are rendered correctly in the PDF
>
>     $ xelatex simple.tex 
>
>
>     However, if I attempt to do the conversion with pandoc using the 
> xelatex engine
>
>     $ pandoc --latex-engine=xelatex simple.tex -o from-pandoc.pdf
>
>
> pandoc will render the PDF **without** the hebrew characters.  There's 
> just blank white space where the hebrew should be.
>     
> So, first question if anyone knows: How do I make pandoc render the hebrew 
> into a PDF?
>
> If there's no clear path to that answer, how to do I debug the 
> pandoc/xelatex interaction in order to understand why pandoc's use of the 
> engine produces different results, and how I might be able to change that 
> invocation.  Regarding this -- my understanding of pandoc is very limited, 
> so baby words/steps that let me become less of a baby are appreciated :)   
>     
>     
> Also, I have some specific examples posted over on the tex StackExchange 
> with hebrew examples
>
>
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/375380/getting-hebrew-support-working-with-pandoc/375443
>
>
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/375380/getting-hebrew-support-working-with-pandoc
>
> Finally -- my ultimate goal here is to convert HTML documents with hebrew 
> into PDFs.  As that also doesn't work, I'm focused on understanding the 
> [tex] to [pdf] conversion.  If there's some extra wrinkle involved with 
> [html] to [pdf] ( which I presume -- (correctly?) -- involves xelatex in 
> the middle) feel free to chime in there as well. 
>

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