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From: <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>
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	<pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: AW: AW: Citeproc is bringing a question mark inside quotes?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 08:46:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ad9e052a2cb84bb2a203ca3eaea55dd1@unibe.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2r1gllhn7.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. Juni 2021 01:00
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org;
> amphiboly-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: Citeproc is bringing a question mark inside quotes?
> 
> 
> <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> >>  "A quotation ending without punctuation" [cite: @hoel-71-whole].
> >  > "A quotation ending with a period"[cite: @hoel-71-whole].
> >>
> >> IOW, the presence or absence of a space before the citation
> >> determines, according to a note rule, if the punctuation should go
> >> inside or outside the quotation. (Nicolas Goaziou,
> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2021-06/msg00384.htm
> >> l)
> >
> > I don't know if that's the best solution, and if that would be a good fit for
> pandoc conceptually, but I wanted to at least mention it here.
> 
> Can't say I like that much.  It's not intuitive at all what effect this would have,
> and aesthetically the lack of the space in the source is ugly and looks like a
> mistake.

Fair enough. Do you have other suggestions how this distinction could be handled? 

Somewhere buried in this thread you'll find other suggestions like:

Escape a period not to be moved inside the quotes: 
"A quotation ending without punctuation" [@doe]\.
 "A quotation ending with a period" [@doe].

Use a bar prevent punctuation from moving across that barrier:
"A quotation ending without punctuation"| [@doe].
 "A quotation ending with a period" [@doe].

Denis

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-29  8:46 UTC|newest]

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2021-06-25 11:37 William Lupton
     [not found] ` <CAEe_xxjq6BMv2UuxKQUdM3JcKReup8XPnwpG_TV-22SqqZ0tXQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-25 11:47   ` William Lupton
2021-06-25 17:47   ` gnpan
     [not found]     ` <b35ebef4-358f-4542-8dda-d68a7c1ab3fan-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-25 19:55       ` William Lupton
     [not found]         ` <CAEe_xxhEX0Tev22__+TO7Ksy9=5j53=ZNoq8MWeHXnc2KfE7nA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-25 20:00           ` William Lupton
2021-06-25 21:24       ` Rik
2021-06-26  6:18         ` gnpan
     [not found]           ` <33940371-e6ec-4176-9483-8f06ec1b75ecn-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-26  6:21             ` gnpan
2021-06-28 17:22   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]     ` <m2eeclnbu5.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-28 18:57       ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0
     [not found]         ` <1b63b1d8bacf454e9db84a056d06a00f-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-28 22:59           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]             ` <m2r1gllhn7.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-29  8:46               ` denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <ad9e052a2cb84bb2a203ca3eaea55dd1-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-29 17:26                   ` AW: " John MacFarlane
     [not found]                     ` <m28s2slgz3.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-07-19 12:25                       ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0
2021-06-28 23:55           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]             ` <m2o8bplf2q.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-29  5:57               ` John MacFarlane
2021-06-29  8:54               ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0
     [not found]                 ` <bae49311ad1f4a49b925be9caa80a4aa-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-29  8:57                   ` denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0

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