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From: Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: WIP: better citation processing
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 23:21:54 +0200	[thread overview]
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Am 11.09.2020 um 23:14 schrieb Denis Maier:
>
>
> Am 11.09.2020 um 22:58 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>> Yes, we could definitely consider adding support for
>> these things at a later date.
>>
>> By-section citations would actually be pretty easy.
> Sounds great!
>
>> Multiple bibliographies is also simple IF it's just
>> a matter of separating items out of a formatted bibliography
>> into several separate ones.  But if it's going to affect
>> things like disambiguation then it would be trickier.
> As outlined on the github issue, I think a simple solution could be 
> allowing multiple bibliographies, each with filters applied that 
> either exclude or include specific items based on different criteria.
>
>>
>> The cito thing seems more special-case, but maybe that too.
>>
>> Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> Am 11.09.2020 um 18:46 schrieb Albert Krewinkel:
>>>> John MacFarlane writes:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be good to get clear on this.  We could expose
>>>>> a --citeproc and require it to be used to process citations.
>>>>> That would also give control of order; it could be treated as
>>>>> a built-in filter.  So maybe it's the thing to do -- but I did
>>>>> like the idea of doing it automatically.
>>>> I agree, that's much nicer. Would an additional `--no-citeproc`
>>>> option make sense? It could suppress the automatic run.
>>>>
>>>>> It should be pretty straightforward to expose this to Lua
>>>>> filters.  (But again, I'd be curious to hear why calling
>>>>> manually from Lua filters would be needed.) At heart it's just a
>>>>> Pandoc -> m Pandoc transformation in PandocMonad.
>>>> Indeed, that should be really easy then. :)
>>>>
>>>> Lua filters which call out to pandoc-citeproc, or which rely on a
>>>> special filter order:
>>>>
>>>> - cito: allows to add information about the semantic relation of the
>>>>     cited work to the current document. Plugs into the citation 
>>>> syntax and
>>>>     requires citation IDs to be rewritten before pandoc-citeproc is
>>>>     called.
>>>>
>>>> - section-refs: adds "References" for all first level sections; 
>>>> creates
>>>>     temporary documents from sections, then calls `pandoc-citeproc` on
>>>>     the temporary docs.
>>>>
>>>> - multiple-bibliographies: allows to partition references into
>>>>     categories; implementation is similar to section-refs.
>>> Adding a `-citeproc` option would be a good option.
>>> But that aside, I think that these particular filters (or replacements
>>> thereof) could/should be included in the new citeproc library.
>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Albert Krewinkel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-11 21:21 UTC|newest]

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2020-08-16 22:59 John MacFarlane
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2020-08-17 14:31   ` James
     [not found]     ` <6F6F5A78-7473-473E-927F-46E2382FE979-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-17 23:17       ` Priv.-Doz. Dr. Maria Shinoto
2020-08-18  9:58   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]     ` <360dbe5b-f1ef-17f6-32e6-8c9f85204844-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 15:39       ` jcr
     [not found]         ` <46e97135-ea1f-469a-898a-eb24876c0708o-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 16:59           ` Denis Maier
     [not found]             ` <1ee49c20-ee12-4984-abdf-e00a9e4414e6o-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 18:13               ` FI Apps
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2020-08-18 21:14                   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                     ` <d59896f4-b360-9ef4-e751-d9dc912ee700-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19  8:37                       ` FI Apps
2020-08-19 12:47               ` James P. Ascher
     [not found]                 ` <1edca1a5-bb73-42b7-a61a-b02d2a1ec5dco-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19 13:12                   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                     ` <5d4b596a-b3ef-744c-bbae-564e490eb598-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19 13:37                       ` James P. Ascher
2020-08-21 19:41       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <m2mu2nbxcv.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-22  9:33           ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-08 18:15               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m2bligt9ra.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-09  7:51                   ` Gabriel Nützi
2020-09-09  9:10                   ` FI Apps
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2020-09-11 15:12                       ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-11 16:02                           ` Albert Krewinkel
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2020-09-11 16:24                               ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-11 16:46                                   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                                     ` <87ft7ol0rq.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 18:51                                       ` proposed --citeproc option John MacFarlane
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2020-09-12 15:56                                           ` BPJ
2020-09-11 20:31                                       ` WIP: better citation processing Denis Maier
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2020-09-11 20:58                                           ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-11 21:14                                               ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-11 21:21                                                   ` Denis Maier [this message]
2020-09-17 17:18                                                   ` John MacFarlane
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2020-09-17 17:30                                                       ` Denis Maier
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2020-09-17 19:20                                                                 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:45                                               ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:51                                               ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:26                       ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2020-08-20 12:29   ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]     ` <e94c6f9d-e6d8-099a-4bf2-7aed30476a6c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 19:06       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <m2v9hbbyyu.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 19:12           ` John MacFarlane
2020-08-21 21:21           ` Joseph Reagle
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2020-08-21 23:03               ` John MacFarlane
2021-06-16 18:14           ` Joseph
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2021-06-16 19:33               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m24kdx38qp.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-17 14:01                   ` Joseph Reagle
2020-09-24 16:10   ` WIP: better citation processing - nightlies now available for testing! John MacFarlane
2020-08-17 14:55 ` OT: Re: WIP: better citation processing Anton Shepelev

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