AW: AW: AW: Why aren't review-author and review-title CSL variables supported?

[<denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>]

Well,  neither bibtex nor biblatex know the reviewed-author field. They are CSL variables, but not recognized by bibtex or biblatex. So, I'd say dropping them is quite reasonable. You could perhaps make the case for just passing them through, maybe only if the target format knows a certain field. But that wouldn't be entirely unproblematic. (E.g., you'd have to know that reviewed-author is a name field, and parse it accordingly.)

Denis

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Sukil Etxenike arizaleta
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 12:00
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Why aren't review-author and review-title CSL
> variables supported?
> 
> Yes, for sure! Turns out after going through my search results, google scholar
> doesn't include any of these but jstor does include review-author.
> 
> 
> Google Scholar (incomplete citation):
> 
> @misc{williams1992short,
>    title={Short Stories of Jack London: Authorized One-Volume Edition},
>    author={Williams, Tony},
>    year={1992},
>    publisher={JSTOR}
> }
> 
> 
> Jstor (more complete citation, with reviewed-author):
> 
> @article{10.2307/27746509,
>   ISSN = {00029823},
>   URL = {http://www.jstor.org/stable/27746509},
>   author = {Tony Williams and Robert C. Leitz},
>   journal = {American Literary Realism, 1870-1910},
>   number = {3},
>   pages = {91--92},
>   publisher = {University of Illinois Press},
>   reviewed-author = {Earle Labor and I. Milo Shepard},
>   volume = {24},
>   year = {1992}
> }
> Same thing with this one. From google:
> 
> @misc{tavernier1997portable,
>    title={The Portable Jack London},
>    author={Tavernier-Courbin, Jacqueline},
>    year={1997},
>    publisher={JSTOR}
> }
> 
> 
> And Jstor:
> 
> 
> @article{10.2307/27746509,
>   ISSN = {00029823},
>   URL = {http://www.jstor.org/stable/27746509},
>   author = {Tony Williams and Robert C. Leitz},
>   journal = {American Literary Realism, 1870-1910},
>   number = {3},
>   pages = {91--92},
>   publisher = {University of Illinois Press},
>   reviewed-author = {Earle Labor and I. Milo Shepard},
>   volume = {24},
>   year = {1992}
> }
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sukil
> 
> 
> El 02/02/2022 a las 11:17, denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org escribió:
> > So, you're exporting bibliographic metadata from google scholar as bibtex?
> Could you please share some examples? That will make things probably a bit
> easier...
> >
> > Denis
> >
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Sukil Etxenike arizaleta <sukiletxe-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 11:15
> >> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> >> <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>; jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org
> >> Betreff: Re: AW: Why aren't review-author and review-title CSL variables
> >> supported?
> >>
> >> I just convert it from the bibliography in BibTeX. I look up sources in
> google
> >> scholar, export the BibTeX citation, modify the id and maybe correct the
> >> data. I then, in order to see how it'd look like, use, as per the
> documentation:
> >>
> >> pandoc --citeproc -s -f bibtex bibliography.bibtex -t html -o bib.html
> >>
> >> I know these fields are CSL variables by looking at Appendix 4 in the
> >> spec:
> >> <https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#toc-entry-
> 90>
> >> (reviewed-title is in standard variables, reviewed-author is in name
> >> variables).
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Sukil
> >>
> >>
> >> El 02/02/2022 a las 10:35, denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org escribió:
> >>> How do you produce your CSL bibliography file?
> >>>
> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>>> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> >>>> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Sukil Etxenike arizaleta
> >>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2022 08:23
> >>>> An: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-discuss <pandoc-
> >>>> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
> >>>> Betreff: Re: Why aren't review-author and review-title CSL variables
> >>>> supported?
> >>>>
> >>>> I forgot to specify this yesterday, they are standard CSL variables.
> >>>> I understand that breaking other standards to accomodate this one (no
> >>>> matter others doing it) may be undesirable.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> El 02/02/2022 a las 0:02, Sukil Etxenike arizaleta escribió:
> >>>>> I've searched in Overleaf for Biblatex and in Bibtex.com for Bibtex
> >>>>> and I've concluded that if I've searched in the right place for
> >>>>> Biblatex they aren't standard fields for neither of them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sukil
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> El 01/02/2022 a las 23:38, John MacFarlane escribió:
> >>>>>> Are review-author and review-title legal bibtex or biblatex fields?
> >>>>>> If so, please link to some documentation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>> I am currently compiling bibliography for an End of Degree
> Disertation.
> >>>>>>> Some of this material (which I don't know if I'll finally use)
> >>>>>>> consists of book reviews, published in journals, that have the
> >>>>>>> review-author field (if exported to Bibtex).
> >>>>>>> I've noticed Pandoc doesn't currently support this field
> >>>>>>> (converting the bibtex file from bibtex to bibtex removes it), and
> >>>>>>> was curious about the reason of this.
> >>>>>>> (I believe I can always put the review information of the
> >>>>>>> bibliography in the title field, at least in APA, and it will
> >>>>>>> render fine, so this not being included doesn't worry much.)
> >>>>>>> Thanks, Sukil
> >>>>>>>
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