using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[A A]

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I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or
writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.

If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help
I can get on a recent issue
<https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which I
am trying to process BulletLists.

Thanks for your consideration.

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AW: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0]

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Not directly related to your question, but have you considered moonscript or fennel or some other to lua transpiler ?

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I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.

If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help I can get on a recent issue<https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which I am trying to process BulletLists.

Thanks for your consideration.
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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

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Last time I checked pandoc doesn't support Moonscript or Fennel. It
supports Lua. Furthermore I'm not sure what the added benefit transpiling
(as opposed to writing) Lua would bring here...

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022, 17:47 , <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Not directly related to your question, but have you considered moonscript
> or fennel or some other to lua transpiler ?
>
>
>
> *Von:* pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> *Im
> Auftrag von *A A
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> *An:* pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> *Betreff:* using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in
> pandoc
>
>
>
> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or
> writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.
>
>
>
> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help
> I can get on a recent issue
> <https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which
> I am trying to process BulletLists.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
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AW: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0]

Well BPJ can surely elaborate on that as he uses moonscript. Of course, Pandoc will need the luafief version of a say moonscript script. Regarding the advantages: depending on your background you may be more familiar with these languages and they offer other features.
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Betreff: Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

Last time I checked pandoc doesn't support Moonscript or Fennel. It supports Lua. Furthermore I'm not sure what the added benefit transpiling (as opposed to writing) Lua would bring here...

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022, 17:47 , <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org<mailto:denis.maier@unibe.ch>> wrote:
Not directly related to your question, but have you considered moonscript or fennel or some other to lua transpiler ?

Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>> Im Auftrag von A A
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Betreff: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.

If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help I can get on a recent issue<https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which I am trying to process BulletLists.

Thanks for your consideration.
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Re: AW: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[Bastien DUMONT]

Using Moonscript of Fennel is just a matter of writing a script in one of these languages that will give a valid Lua filter once compiled to Lua. For Fennel (which probably does not interest you), see an example here: https://groups.google.com/g/pandoc-discuss/c/YthBgk5PKRQ/m/O9O-0gmqBAAJ

Le Tuesday 05 July 2022 à 04:10:21PM, denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org a écrit :
> Well BPJ can surely elaborate on that as he uses moonscript. Of course, Pandoc will need the luafief version of a say moonscript script. Regarding the advantages: depending on your background you may be more familiar with these languages and they offer other features.
> ________________________________________
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> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc
> 
> Last time I checked pandoc doesn't support Moonscript or Fennel. It supports Lua. Furthermore I'm not sure what the added benefit transpiling (as opposed to writing) Lua would bring here...
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jul 2022, 17:47 , <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org<mailto:denis.maier@unibe.ch>> wrote:
> Not directly related to your question, but have you considered moonscript or fennel or some other to lua transpiler ?
> 
> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss@googlegroups.com> <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>> Im Auftrag von A A
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. Juli 2022 17:12
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> Betreff: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc
> 
> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.
> 
> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help I can get on a recent issue<https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which I am trying to process BulletLists.
> 
> Thanks for your consideration.
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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[Günter Dannoritzer]

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I agree with your statement about Python, however, having programmed a few 
filter for pandoc I struggled with panflute as the core concept to 
understand is how the pandoc AST works. I did not find that much help in 
panflute, and it was easier for me to learn lua and use the numerous 
lua-filter-examples. Also, I find it easier to use lua, as there are no 
extra installations necessary.

amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2022 um 17:12:42 UTC+2:

> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or 
> writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.
>
> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help 
> I can get on a recent issue 
> <https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which 
> I am trying to process BulletLists.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>

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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[John MacFarlane]

Lua filters are also much faster, because we avoid the JSON
serialization and deserialization step.  And the Lua API now
exposes many useful functions that you're probably not going
to find in panflute.

Günter Dannoritzer <dannoritzer-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:

> I agree with your statement about Python, however, having programmed a few 
> filter for pandoc I struggled with panflute as the core concept to 
> understand is how the pandoc AST works. I did not find that much help in 
> panflute, and it was easier for me to learn lua and use the numerous 
> lua-filter-examples. Also, I find it easier to use lua, as there are no 
> extra installations necessary.
>
> amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2022 um 17:12:42 UTC+2:
>
>> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/or 
>> writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to Lua.
>>
>> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or help 
>> I can get on a recent issue 
>> <https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in which 
>> I am trying to process BulletLists.
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>
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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[A A]

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Yes, but Lua + Luarocks support is nonexistent for Windows. Here's proof:

https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/issues/1423

Furthermore what useful functions are you referring to which the Lua API
exposes and which panflute doesn't?

On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 00:49, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
> Lua filters are also much faster, because we avoid the JSON
> serialization and deserialization step.  And the Lua API now
> exposes many useful functions that you're probably not going
> to find in panflute.
>
> Günter Dannoritzer <dannoritzer-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > I agree with your statement about Python, however, having programmed a
> few
> > filter for pandoc I struggled with panflute as the core concept to
> > understand is how the pandoc AST works. I did not find that much help in
> > panflute, and it was easier for me to learn lua and use the numerous
> > lua-filter-examples. Also, I find it easier to use lua, as there are no
> > extra installations necessary.
> >
> > amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2022 um 17:12:42
> UTC+2:
> >
> >> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers
> and/or
> >> writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to
> Lua.
> >>
> >> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or
> help
> >> I can get on a recent issue
> >> <https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in
> which
> >> I am trying to process BulletLists.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your consideration.
> >>
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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[Bastien DUMONT]

You don't need to install Lua, it is built into the Pandoc executable. And you will likely not need external modules to write Pandoc filters either!

Le Thursday 07 July 2022 à 11:51:19AM, A A a écrit :
> Yes, but Lua + Luarocks support is nonexistent for Windows. Here's proof:
> 
> [1]https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/issues/1423
> 
> Furthermore what useful functions are you referring to which the Lua API
> exposes and which panflute doesn't?
> 
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 00:49, John MacFarlane <[2]jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Lua filters are also much faster, because we avoid the JSON
>     serialization and deserialization step.  And the Lua API now
>     exposes many useful functions that you're probably not going
>     to find in panflute.
> 
>     Günter Dannoritzer <[3]dannoritzer-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
>     > I agree with your statement about Python, however, having programmed a
>     few
>     > filter for pandoc I struggled with panflute as the core concept to
>     > understand is how the pandoc AST works. I did not find that much help in
>     > panflute, and it was easier for me to learn lua and use the numerous
>     > lua-filter-examples. Also, I find it easier to use lua, as there are no
>     > extra installations necessary.
>     >
>     > [4]amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2022 um 17:12:42
>     UTC+2:
>     >
>     >> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters, readers and/
>     or
>     >> writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just superior to
>     Lua.
>     >>
>     >> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any commentary or
>     help
>     >> I can get on a recent issue
>     >> <[5]https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I logged in
>     which
>     >> I am trying to process BulletLists.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks for your consideration.
>     >>
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> [3] mailto:dannoritzer-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org
> [4] mailto:amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> [5] https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217
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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

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You don't *need *external modules. But it's certainly nice to have them.
What I like about panflute is that it opens up a world of possibilities
with the wide variety of python libraries available... You simply don't get
that with Lua I'm afraid.


On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 11:55, Bastien DUMONT <bastien.dumont-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
wrote:

> You don't need to install Lua, it is built into the Pandoc executable. And
> you will likely not need external modules to write Pandoc filters either!
>
> Le Thursday 07 July 2022 à 11:51:19AM, A A a écrit :
> > Yes, but Lua + Luarocks support is nonexistent for Windows. Here's proof:
> >
> > [1]https://github.com/luarocks/luarocks/issues/1423
> >
> > Furthermore what useful functions are you referring to which the Lua API
> > exposes and which panflute doesn't?
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 00:49, John MacFarlane <[2]jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Lua filters are also much faster, because we avoid the JSON
> >     serialization and deserialization step.  And the Lua API now
> >     exposes many useful functions that you're probably not going
> >     to find in panflute.
> >
> >     Günter Dannoritzer <[3]dannoritzer-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> >     > I agree with your statement about Python, however, having
> programmed a
> >     few
> >     > filter for pandoc I struggled with panflute as the core concept to
> >     > understand is how the pandoc AST works. I did not find that much
> help in
> >     > panflute, and it was easier for me to learn lua and use the
> numerous
> >     > lua-filter-examples. Also, I find it easier to use lua, as there
> are no
> >     > extra installations necessary.
> >     >
> >     > [4]amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Dienstag, 5. Juli 2022 um
> 17:12:42
> >     UTC+2:
> >     >
> >     >> I'd like to avoid using Lua to make my own custom filters,
> readers and/
> >     or
> >     >> writers and stick to panflute because, well, python is just
> superior to
> >     Lua.
> >     >>
> >     >> If anyone's familiar using panflute, I'd appreciate any
> commentary or
> >     help
> >     >> I can get on a recent issue
> >     >> <[5]https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217> I
> logged in
> >     which
> >     >> I am trying to process BulletLists.
> >     >>
> >     >> Thanks for your consideration.
> >     >>
> >     >
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> > [2] mailto:jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org
> > [3] mailto:dannoritzer-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org
> > [4] mailto:amine.ab...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> > [5] https://github.com/sergiocorreia/panflute/issues/217
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Re: using panflute to create filters and (hopefully) writers in pandoc

[John MacFarlane]

A A <amine.aboufirass-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Furthermore what useful functions are you referring to which the Lua API
> exposes and which panflute doesn't?

For example, blocks_to_inlines, make_sections, functions to
manipulate pandoc's mediabag (which contains resources like
images).

But by all means, use panflute if you want to use Python
libraries!  panflute is great.