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I=E2=80=99d say yes, there may be things such as =C2=ABIn his mail to the mailing list, D=E2=80=99Arcus (2021; against Doe 2= 020) has had a couple of questions about citation syntax.=C2=BB Not quite pretty, but reasonable, isn=E2=80=99t it ? Regarding the style vs minus question : in pandoc you can=E2=80=99t have a = thing such as this syntax : [cite/text:@key1;@key2]. So using symbols is t= he only possibility. Org is different in this regard. Possibly you could us= e a special style for that. But the symbol based syntax can give you a nice= shorthand. Denis Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Im A= uftrag von Bruce D'Arcus Gesendet: Freitag, 23. April 2021 20:40 An: pandoc-discuss Betreff: question on suppress-author citation variant Org-mode is primed to add citation support, with a syntax inspired in part = by pandoc's. But I'm now wondering about a design detail it shares with pandoc, and so I= thought I'd ask this community before raising it there. So this is what pandoc's `[-@key]` would look like: > [cite:-@key] If there are multiple items in the same citations, it could be this: [cite:-@key1;@key2] As in, suppress author on first item, but not second, as opposed to all ite= ms within the citation. In retrospect, does this make sense? The org syntax will also have an optional "style" section, which applies to= the whole citation; so: [cite/text:@key1;@key2] ... which leads me to wonder if "suppress author" is really just such a sty= le. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org. 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> [cite:-@key1;@key2]

> As in, suppress author on = first item, but not second, as opposed to all items within the citation.
> In retrospect, does this make sense?

 

I=E2=80=99d say yes, there may = be things such as

=C2=ABIn his mail to the mailin= g list, D=E2=80=99Arcus (2021; against Doe 2020) has had a couple of questi= ons about citation syntax.=C2=BB

 

Not quite pretty, but reasonabl= e, isn=E2=80=99t it ?

 

Regarding the style vs minus question : in pandoc you can=E2=80= =99t have a thing such as this syntax :  [cite/text:@key1;@key2]. So using symbols= is the only possibility. Org is different in this regard. Possibly you cou= ld use a special style for that. But the symbol based syntax can give you a= nice shorthand.

 

Denis

 

 

 

 

Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Bruce D'Arcus
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. April 2021 20:40<= br> An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Betreff: question on suppress-author citation variant

 

Org-mode is primed to add citat= ion support, with a syntax inspired in part by pandoc's.<= /p>

 

But I'm now wondering about a d= esign detail it shares with pandoc, and so I thought I'd ask this community= before raising it there.

 

So this is what pandoc's `[-@key]` would look like:<= o:p>

 

>   [cite:-@key= ]

If there are multiple items in the same citations, it could be this:

 

 

As in, suppress author on first= item, but not second, as opposed to all items within the citation.

In retrospect, does this make sense?

 

The org syntax will also have a= n optional "style" section, which applies to the whole citation; = so:

 

 [cite/text:@key1;@key2]

 

... which leads me to wonder if= "suppress author" is really just such a style.

Bruce

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