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charset="UTF-8" Thanks - replacing "language" with "langid" in the bibtex file fixes the capitalization in the bibliography. Robert. On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 1:08:36 AM UTC-4, John MacFarlane wrote: > > Try langid or hyphenation instead of (or in addition to) language. > See > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/96469/switching-languages-in-bibliography-with-biblatex > > +++ Robert Goulding [Aug 06 17 14:52 ]: > > Escaping the colon works perfectly, after testing. > > I had one other query. When I convert to docx, the foreign titles are > > put into sentence case, despite the fact that I have the language > field > > set. So, for example, the entry in my bibtex file: > > @BOOK{Weinrich1998-zr, > > title = "Die Lichtbrechung in den Theorien von Descartes und > > Fermat", > > author = "Weinrich, Klaus", > > publisher = "F. Steiner", > > series = "Sudhoffs Archiv: Beihefte", > > year = 1998, > > address = "Stuttgart", > > language = "de" > > } > > turns up in my bibliography as: Weinrich, Klaus. 1998. Die > > Lichtbrechung in Den Theorien von Descartes Und Fermat. Sudhoffs > > Archiv: Beihefte. Stuttgart: F. Steiner. > > > > with "den" and "und" capitalized (but not "von"!). I see this > behavior > > whether or notI explicitly include the Chicago csl file from the > Zotero > > repository, or just use the pandoc default. > > Robert. > > On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:33:36 PM UTC-4, Robert Goulding wrote: > > > > Thank you! I will backslash the colons in the file as a fix for now. > - > > Robert. > > On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 12:02:43 PM UTC-4, John MacFarlane wrote: > > > > Thanks (and apologies if I missed the files before). > > Simple repro here: > > ``` > > hi[^fn3] > > [^fn3]: [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et rationabilius, > > ut appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam." > > ``` > > This yields an empty footnote. Why? Because the footnote > > contains: > > ``` > > [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et rationabilius, ut > > appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam." > > ``` > > which pandoc is parsing as a reference link definition! > > Perhaps pandoc should not allow reference link definitions > > that start with `@`, since these conflict with citations? > > Anyone have thoughts about this? Someone should probably > > put an issue on the bug tracker for this. > > In the mean time, a workaround is to backslash-escape the > > colon: > > [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]\: "competentius... > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org . > > To post to this group, send email to > > [2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org . > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [3] > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/08b2ce82-4d36-4e6b- > > be2c-b8fb0dddec97%40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit [4]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > >References > > > > 1. mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > 2. mailto:pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > 3. > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/08b2ce82-4d36-4e6b-be2c-b8fb0dddec97-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > > 4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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Thanks - replacing "language" with "langid&= quot; =C2=A0in the bibtex file fixes the capitalization in the bibliography= .

Robert.

On Monday, August 7, 2017 at 1:08:36 AM= UTC-4, John MacFarlane wrote:
= Try langid or hyphenation instead of (or in addition to) language.
See https://= tex.stackexchange.com/questions/96469/switching-languages-in-bibl= iography-with-biblatex

+++ Robert Goulding [Aug 06 17 14:52 ]:
> =C2=A0 Escaping the colon works perfectly, after testing.
> =C2=A0 I had one other query. =C2=A0When I convert to docx, the fo= reign titles are
> =C2=A0 put into sentence case, despite the fact that I have the la= nguage field
> =C2=A0 set. =C2=A0So, for example, the entry in my bibtex file:
> =C2=A0 @BOOK{Weinrich1998-zr,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 title =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3D "Die Lichtbrechung in d= en Theorien von Descartes und
> =C2=A0 Fermat",
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 author =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D "Weinrich, Klaus",
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 publisher =3D "F. Steiner",
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 series =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D "Sudhoffs Archiv: Beihe= fte",
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 year =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=3D =C2=A01998,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 address =C2=A0 =3D "Stuttgart",
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 language =C2=A0=3D "de"
> =C2=A0 }
> =C2=A0 turns up in my bibliography as: Weinrich, Klaus. 1998. Die
> =C2=A0 Lichtbrechung in Den Theorien von Descartes Und Fermat. Sud= hoffs
> =C2=A0 Archiv: Beihefte. Stuttgart: F. Steiner.
>
> =C2=A0 with "den" and "und" capitalized (but n= ot "von"!). =C2=A0I see this behavior
> =C2=A0 whether or notI explicitly include the Chicago csl file fro= m the Zotero
> =C2=A0 repository, or just use the pandoc default.
> =C2=A0 Robert.
> =C2=A0 On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:33:36 PM UTC-4, Robert Gould= ing wrote:
>
> =C2=A0 Thank you! I will backslash the colons in the file as a fix= for now. =C2=A0-
> =C2=A0 Robert.
> =C2=A0 On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 12:02:43 PM UTC-4, John MacFar= lane wrote:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks (and apologies if I missed the files before).
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Simple repro here:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ```
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 hi[^fn3]
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [^fn3]: [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius e= st et rationabilius,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ut appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam.&quo= t;
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ```
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 This yields an empty footnote. =C2=A0Why? =C2=A0Beca= use the footnote
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 contains:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ```
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]: "competentius est et ra= tionabilius, ut
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 appareat supra perpendiculum, quam extra eam."
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ```
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 which pandoc is parsing as a reference link definiti= on!
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Perhaps pandoc should not allow reference link defin= itions
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 that start with `@`, since these conflict with citat= ions?
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Anyone have thoughts about this? =C2=A0Someone shoul= d probably
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 put an issue on the bug tracker for this.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 In the mean time, a workaround is to backslash-escap= e the
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 colon:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [@Alhazen1572-qk, V.9]\: "compete= ntius...
>
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>References
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> =C2=A0 2. mailto:pandoc-...@googlegroups.com
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