Re: Proposed new list type

[Milan Bracke <milan.bracke-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Hi,

This thread seems to have been forgotten. What do you think about my last 
proposal?
On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 4:04:45 PM UTC+2 Milan Bracke wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your feedback, and sorry for taking a while to respond.
>
> Your objections are very reasonable and parsing these lists as regular
> paragraphs is a decent alternative, but it also has its drawbacks. So I 
> came up
> with a third solution. The main drawback was that these lists without 
> markers
> are often used to add paragraphs in a list item without visually adding a 
> new
> list element or ending the list. By using paragraphs, we would visually 
> end the
> list. My solution to this is to add the list items without markers as
> paragraphs to the last item of the list immediately before if there is 
> one. In
> the other cases we propose to just use paragraphs as you suggested.
>
> I have attached a docx file and an HTML file to demonstrate both cases and 
> how
> they would be rendered with my solution.
>
> What are your thoughts on this solution? If you think it's good I'll send a
> pull request either Friday or in two weeks.
> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 7:39:23 PM UTC+2 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess I do have objections to features that get implemented 
>> in just a couple of formats, leaving the work of implementing 
>> them in others to other people. 
>>
>> There's also a question whether it makes sense to support 
>> this kind of list -- that depends on whether it has a reasonable 
>> rendering in enough of the formats we support. (Particularly 
>> in Markdown, which is supposed to be expressive enough for 
>> everything in the AST, with the current exception of some of 
>> the new table features.) 
>>
>> What about parsing these docx lists as just lists of regular 
>> paragraphs? Then they'll render pretty well in every output 
>> format. 
>>
>> Milan Bracke <milan....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>>
>> > Hi, 
>> > 
>> > Both docx and HTML have a list type named "none", where no marker is 
>> shown. 
>> > However, Pandoc doesn't support these types of lists and will put 
>> numbers 
>> > instead. See the attached docx file for an example. 
>> > 
>> > We would like to add a ListNumberStyle called None in pandoc-types and 
>> use 
>> > it in 
>> > the docx reader and HTML writer. For HTML5, we can't use the "type" 
>> > attribute so 
>> > we will have to fall back on the "list-style-type" CSS as described 
>> here: 
>> > https://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_ol_type.asp, and for docx the 
>> change 
>> > seems 
>> > simple since all the types can be set with w:numFmt. 
>> > 
>> > We'd prefer not to implement the usage of the new type in the other 
>> readers 
>> > and 
>> > writers yet. (We'll of course avoid breaking them.) We only need it in 
>> the 
>> > two 
>> > mentioned above and we don't master all the file types in Pandoc. Is 
>> this 
>> > OK and 
>> > should we make an issue to track the progress in the other readers and 
>> > writers 
>> > when people implement the new type there? 
>> > 
>> > Do you have any feedback or objections? If there are no objections, 
>> we'll 
>> > make 
>> > a pull request soon. 
>> > 
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