From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/32978 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "'Julian Reich' via pandoc-discuss" Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: License terms for pandoc's default templates Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_230_1306763091.1689812085926" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27496"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: pandoc-discuss Original-X-From: pandoc-discuss+bncBCC3T76S64JBB5XY4GSQMGQEWJ5KQ3Y-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Thu Jul 20 02:14:50 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from mail-oa1-f57.google.com ([209.85.160.57]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qMHJi-0006y0-Gz for gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2023 02:14:50 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-oa1-f57.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-1b03f7fb970sf370478fac.1 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:14:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20221208; t=1689812089; x=1690416889; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:reply-to:x-original-sender :mime-version:subject:message-id:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KqGCRpJAm/bTvOLzgNZjm1Jmj7kfgk0DVSeuCLB4zyo=; b=tF5azbTZlb/Bxbj9Xy7TNN3i5dHzOJpbb6BvbYtGwaUxw79umHFPgNGF+FhWm40K93 4KOwVa2JZ72dmJQXh2q0IsC+h6n0Yfxf3juzRXpquSxdotL3LrfvlMpr397ORfE87zj1 o65cHGV40P0XOIhcihslQ9zJTayT9NRPc17P+3GGCvdDL+/kWdmynsPnZ0R22AMHafqW tzd8cTW5AJHZxcUCFPglMWO6erl7BZz3Qaq92kjA7e4tFZicxGfFdMsOlGOqV5wC7YSV GJdhw5eJhP55xnV9LN4Avaju0/yYDTCfKAuJZfLHvt7Pb/PSrT37atnFDJrFk3+JYnX0 MtfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1689812089; x=1690416889; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-id:mailing-list:precedence:reply-to :x-original-sender:mime-version:subject:message-id:to:from:date :x-beenthere:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=KqGCRpJAm/bTvOLzgNZjm1Jmj7kfgk0DVSeuCLB4zyo=; b=dctLrg17NxKX0cxsKt6Hp6LttXjE1OzHuvQZveA5zVXdUDqdT6RDkaopRmalKde9x3 mGKZApa/i7fbFahgW31xN/mnAoEu69D6rkx/E15gHrSPeJgDivfs29bEY/LlugYijhUi RjmnBFuTu5c4djcLaHgv8eM5s1N2Eg6lB+uhuzDfUaE5SBaeD/gPzOXcgfweQawU4Zzx 0zcJgzDBbjQtOfUtd8r+Te3JyuMPJB5yqJZIegeEorD5oskoUws1LzitlJrF844MH0t7 4gcHJeAS6zsMMWkMmhVI4kGftqNJkXHsgRzGKdcPFBvS3qNTC0BPTzU42FHA7zrVLG8z q6 X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLYOP3Wlg8ljg7NcinPolk6xySCzz0gWS/29w5fQwTmOomva9tfS qHY1848Lvy6fjXe5rbY93Ug= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlGjbPiyJTCR5wVu5qHKhBso0BN1mjfy+hFoEhY3A5vxrTDyJzDqQsJ1vza2QurrhIV2Fixy3A== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:54e:b0:1b0:7eac:70ad with SMTP id t14-20020a056871054e00b001b07eac70admr57544oal.39.1689812089323; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:14:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Original-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:587:b0:1ad:11c2:6e36 with SMTP id u7-20020a056871058700b001ad11c26e36ls332867oan.2.-pod-prod-02-us; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:bc1:b0:3a1:ed05:198 with SMTP id o1-20020a0568080bc100b003a1ed050198mr166826oik.2.1689812086486; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 17:14:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: jreich-qFSAyzas7QJBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org X-Original-From: Julian Reich Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:32978 Archived-At: ------=_Part_230_1306763091.1689812085926 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_231_1721098420.1689812085926" ------=_Part_231_1721098420.1689812085926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I'd like to ask for clarification on the license terms for pandoc's default template files. According to the COPYRIGHT file, pandoc's templates can be licensed under either the GPL version 2 (or any later version) or the 3-clause BSD license. Taking these licenses literally, I've come to the conclusion that we *might* be required to include a copyright notice and the license text (of our choice) in the documents generated from these templates (and/or in the accompanying materials). This would not be a problem per se, pandoc is a great and immensely useful tool, and we want to make sure we are using it in accordance with its license terms. However, while I suppose you *could* interpret the license terms that way, I'm not so sure that was the intent. For example from the 3-clause BSD license: > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. > > 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. I guess it boils down to whether the generated documents are considered "redistributions" of the templates. I may be way off (not a lawyer), but perhaps others have also wondered about this, and it might even be worth adding some clarifying wording to the COPYRIGHT file. Regards, Julian Reich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/cf5d7116-e4c5-4a4b-923d-6b3b275d16e4n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_231_1721098420.1689812085926 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I'd like to ask for clarification on the license terms for p= andoc's default template files.
According to the COPYRIGHT file, pando= c's templates can be licensed under either the GPL version 2 (or any later = version) or the 3-clause BSD license.
Taking these licenses literally,= I've come to the conclusion that we might be required to include a = copyright notice and the license text (of our choice) in the documents gene= rated from these templates (and/or in the accompanying materials).
Thi= s would not be a problem per se, pandoc is a great and immensely useful too= l, and we want to make sure we are using it in accordance with its license = terms.
However, while I suppose you could interpret the license= terms that way, I'm not so sure that was the intent.

For exampl= e from the 3-clause BSD license:

> 1. Redistributions of sour= ce code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and= the following disclaimer.
>
> 2. Redistributions in binar= y form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions a= nd the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials pro= vided with the distribution.

I guess it boils down to whether th= e generated documents are considered "redistributions" of the templates.I may be way off (not a lawyer), but perhaps others have also wondered a= bout this, and it might even be worth adding some clarifying wording to the= COPYRIGHT file.


Regards,
Julia= n Reich

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