public inbox archive for pandoc-discuss@googlegroups.com
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss" <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
To: "pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org"
	<pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: WIP: better citation processing
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 06:26:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cy_zB0ryMZZFLdb4qMo7kMPfyBvIZwVJI81wd5aRWS3_SYgyYoch4zRkj-LMCAVRvnumZfgy_DG1kfG3pQem7P9HnuT7UQhPymOhc7DK-EQ=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGOSsd=Xs6u6Xup9YugR-zd6FC_29QFs1asEcARA4m2UPts_vQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4836 bytes --]

> I can imagine other people might want to generate citations in a filter and have them processed.

For example, in a Zotero -> zotxt -> pandoc workflow it is essential to be able to call the pandoc-zotxt.lua filter _before_ (pandoc-)citeproc (see https://github.com/egh/zotxt/).

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Friday, September 11, 2020 3:05 PM, FI Apps <ffi.appdev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Will it be possible to control when citation processing happens relative to filters? Earlier in this thread, I saw that mancite could be emulated by running a filter after pandoc-citeproc. I can imagine other people might want to generate citations in a filter and have them processed.
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:16 PM John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Progress report:
>>
>> I have put the library at jgm/citeproc on GitHub. It still
>>
>> doesn't pass all the CSL tests, and it needs some work, but I
>>
>> think it's already quite a bit better than pandoc-citeproc.
>>
>> I've also been working on a version of pandoc that integrates the
>>
>> library (so that pandoc-citeproc won't be needed). That work is
>>
>> happening in the citeproc branch at jgm/pandoc. When I get a bit
>>
>> farther, I'll make a binary available so people can try it out.
>>
>> Citation processing will happen automatically if your document
>>
>> contains `bibliography` or `references` in the metadata, or if
>>
>> you use `--bibliography` on the command line.
>>
>> This is _much_ faster than using pandoc-citeproc.
>>
>> The pandoc-citeproc executable could also be used to convert
>>
>> between bibliographic formats. I'm planning to integrate that
>>
>> capability into pandoc, too. So, you can convert a bibtex
>>
>> bibliography to CSL json using `pandoc -f bibtex -t csljson`.
>>
>> You'll also be able to do, e.g., `pandoc -f bibtex -t html` to
>>
>> get a formatted HTML version of your bibliography.
>>
>> Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> Am 21.08.2020 um 21:41 schrieb John MacFarlane:
>>
>>>>> That sounds amazing. As you know CSL 1.0.2 is about to appear soon, and
>>
>>>>> 1.1 is also already pretty advanced. It would be great if it were easy
>>
>>>>> to integrate the new features in your library.
>>
>>>> Is there a list of changes in CSL 1.0.2 somewhere, so I can see
>>
>>>> what will need to be supported when it comes out?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Yeah, there's a summary of changes here:
>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wY1cOOamDYYh8VNW7h_uleqieBDGOa_LYsRiVdQy1RI/edit#heading=h.wsywjzy5t4j6
>>
>>>
>>
>>> As you can see it's a terms, types and variables release. That should be
>>
>>> trivial to support. (There were some changes to that list due to
>>
>>> comments during the comments period so that's not the final list of
>>
>>> changes.)
>>
>>>
>>
>>> 1.1 will be more complex, but we plan to document the new features with
>>
>>> a detailled changelog and new tests in the test-suite.
>>
>> --
>>
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/pandoc-discuss/LaPbYbP8GU4/unsubscribe.
>>
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to [pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org](mailto:pandoc-discuss%2Bunsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org).
>>
>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/m2bligt9ra.fsf%40MacBook-Pro.hsd1.ca.comcast.net.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
> To view this discussion on the web visit [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAGOSsd%3DXs6u6Xup9YugR-zd6FC_29QFs1asEcARA4m2UPts_vQ%40mail.gmail.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAGOSsd%3DXs6u6Xup9YugR-zd6FC_29QFs1asEcARA4m2UPts_vQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer).

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/cy_zB0ryMZZFLdb4qMo7kMPfyBvIZwVJI81wd5aRWS3_SYgyYoch4zRkj-LMCAVRvnumZfgy_DG1kfG3pQem7P9HnuT7UQhPymOhc7DK-EQ%3D%40protonmail.com.

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 7761 bytes --]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-12  6:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-16 22:59 John MacFarlane
2020-08-17 14:55 ` OT: " Anton Shepelev
     [not found] ` <m2mu2udwo9.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-17 14:31   ` James
     [not found]     ` <6F6F5A78-7473-473E-927F-46E2382FE979-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-17 23:17       ` Priv.-Doz. Dr. Maria Shinoto
2020-08-18  9:58   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]     ` <360dbe5b-f1ef-17f6-32e6-8c9f85204844-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 15:39       ` jcr
     [not found]         ` <46e97135-ea1f-469a-898a-eb24876c0708o-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 16:59           ` Denis Maier
     [not found]             ` <1ee49c20-ee12-4984-abdf-e00a9e4414e6o-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 18:13               ` FI Apps
     [not found]                 ` <D2ED4685-A7ED-4BB4-B651-D362B2564F62-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-18 21:14                   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                     ` <d59896f4-b360-9ef4-e751-d9dc912ee700-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19  8:37                       ` FI Apps
2020-08-19 12:47               ` James P. Ascher
     [not found]                 ` <1edca1a5-bb73-42b7-a61a-b02d2a1ec5dco-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19 13:12                   ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                     ` <5d4b596a-b3ef-744c-bbae-564e490eb598-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-19 13:37                       ` James P. Ascher
2020-08-21 19:41       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <m2mu2nbxcv.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-22  9:33           ` Denis Maier
     [not found]             ` <865f327e-d305-4409-dd6f-1659f6a884cc-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-08 18:15               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m2bligt9ra.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-09  7:51                   ` Gabriel Nützi
2020-09-09  9:10                   ` FI Apps
     [not found]                     ` <CAGOSsd=Xs6u6Xup9YugR-zd6FC_29QFs1asEcARA4m2UPts_vQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 15:12                       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                         ` <m2tuw4jqj1.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 16:02                           ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                             ` <87imckl2tg.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 16:24                               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                 ` <m2blicjn7p.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 16:46                                   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                                     ` <87ft7ol0rq.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 18:51                                       ` proposed --citeproc option John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                         ` <m21rj8jge2.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-12 15:56                                           ` BPJ
2020-09-11 20:31                                       ` WIP: better citation processing Denis Maier
     [not found]                                         ` <1adfb0c1-d745-a6dc-bf14-f790e3f1280f-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 20:58                                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                             ` <m2v9gkhvya.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 21:14                                               ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                                                 ` <64087dc0-cf6d-4c8d-c579-9b4312baec2e-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-11 21:21                                                   ` Denis Maier
2020-09-17 17:18                                                   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                                     ` <d7317035-fba6-466b-8d6e-699f82ae5445n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-17 17:30                                                       ` Denis Maier
     [not found]                                                         ` <m27dssjnvu.fsf@MacBook-Pro.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>
     [not found]                                                           ` <m24knwjnm5.fsf@MacBook-Pro.hsd1.ca.comcast.net>
     [not found]                                                             ` <86c0bfc6-4795-718c-5ddd-0e3ef0f91403@mailbox.org>
     [not found]                                                               ` <86c0bfc6-4795-718c-5ddd-0e3ef0f91403-cl+VPiYnx/1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2020-09-17 19:20                                                                 ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:45                                               ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:51                                               ` Denis Maier
2020-09-12  6:26                       ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss [this message]
2020-08-20 12:29   ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]     ` <e94c6f9d-e6d8-099a-4bf2-7aed30476a6c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 19:06       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <m2v9hbbyyu.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 19:12           ` John MacFarlane
2020-08-21 21:21           ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]             ` <91c2cfed-7211-4194-72cf-5c01abf2315c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-21 23:03               ` John MacFarlane
2021-06-16 18:14           ` Joseph
     [not found]             ` <30abf74d-df6f-4df8-aaee-a493331d4e92n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-16 19:33               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m24kdx38qp.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2021-06-17 14:01                   ` Joseph Reagle
2020-09-24 16:10   ` WIP: better citation processing - nightlies now available for testing! John MacFarlane

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='cy_zB0ryMZZFLdb4qMo7kMPfyBvIZwVJI81wd5aRWS3_SYgyYoch4zRkj-LMCAVRvnumZfgy_DG1kfG3pQem7P9HnuT7UQhPymOhc7DK-EQ=@protonmail.com' \
    --to=pandoc-discuss-/jypxa39uh5tlh3mbocffw@public.gmane.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).