Problem with pdf conversion, citations with titles that include terminal punctuation

Problem with pdf conversion, citations with titles that include terminal punctuation

[John Carter Wood]

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Hi everyone,

I am running into a problem with the formatting of titles in footnotes
and bibliographies that have concluding punctuation *in the titles* when
using pandoc to convert from markdown to pdf via LaTeX.

I have a bibliographic entry in a json file that is a newspaper article
with a title that ends in an exclamation point. When creating a pdf, the
exclamation mark is turned upside down and the concluding quotation mark
is turned into a single quotation mark.

Text as it appears in pdf

When converting to docx it converts fine.

Text as it appears in docx

It also looks fine when I preview citations in Zotero.

I am using Zotero to create a json file to contain the citations.
I am then using pandoc (2.11.3.1) and citeproc (0.3.0.1) to create the
documents.
Citation file and csl are defined in YAML in the markdown documents,
where I also use package \csquotes.

The json entry looks like this:

~~~
{"id":"noauthor_stamp_1932","container-title":"Daily
Mirror","event-place":"London","issued":{"date-parts":[[1932,4,30]]},"language":"en","page":"9","publisher-place":"London","title":"Stamp
out these bandits!","title-short":"Stamp out these
bandits!","type":"article-newspaper"},
~~~

A few notes:
- The error occurs whether or not I use the pandoc-quotes.lua to get my
German quotation marks.
- The error occurs with different csl files
- The error occurs whether I use the default LaTeX engine or use XeTeX.
- The error also occurs when exporting a .bib file from Zotero (whether
in BibTeX or BibLaTeX)

I would very much appreciate any assistance in solving this problem!

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Re: Problem with pdf conversion, citations with titles that include terminal punctuation

[johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org]

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A quick follow-up: the problem also occurs with other terminal punctuation 
in titles (question marks, etc). So it's not just about the exclamation 
point. 


On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 3:31:48 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am running into a problem with the formatting of titles in footnotes and 
> bibliographies that have concluding punctuation *in the titles* when using 
> pandoc to convert from markdown to pdf via LaTeX.
>
> I have a bibliographic entry in a json file that is a newspaper article 
> with a title that ends in an exclamation point. When creating a pdf, the 
> exclamation mark is turned upside down and the concluding quotation mark is 
> turned into a single quotation mark. 
>
> [image: Text as it appears in pdf]
>
> When converting to docx it converts fine.
>
> [image: Text as it appears in docx]
>
> It also looks fine when I preview citations in Zotero.
>
> I am using Zotero to create a json file to contain the citations. 
> I am then using pandoc (2.11.3.1) and citeproc (0.3.0.1) to create the 
> documents.
> Citation file and csl are defined in YAML in the markdown documents, where 
> I also use package \csquotes. 
>
> The json entry looks like this: 
>
> ~~~
> {"id":"noauthor_stamp_1932","container-title":"Daily 
> Mirror","event-place":"London","issued":{"date-parts":[[1932,4,30]]},"language":"en","page":"9","publisher-place":"London","title":"Stamp 
> out these bandits!","title-short":"Stamp out these 
> bandits!","type":"article-newspaper"},
> ~~~
>
> A few notes:
> - The error occurs whether or not I use the pandoc-quotes.lua to get my 
> German quotation marks. 
> - The error occurs with different csl files
> - The error occurs whether I use the default LaTeX engine or use XeTeX.
> - The error also occurs when exporting a .bib file from Zotero (whether in 
> BibTeX or BibLaTeX)
>
> I would very much appreciate any assistance in solving this problem!
>

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Re: Problem with pdf conversion, citations with titles that include terminal punctuation

[johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org]

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Thanks to a tip from a LaTeX-knowlegeable friend, I tried using the +smart 
extension with my pandoc command: pandoc --from markdown+smart KIII_4.md -o 
KIII_4-new-test.pdf --citeproc 

This solved the problem. Which is curious, since the LaTeX output looks the 
same in both cases. (If I export a .tex file instead of a pdf.) 

But it works! And that's the most important thing. Just wanted to leave the 
note here, that my question is solved. 

On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 2:08:12 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:

> A quick follow-up: the problem also occurs with other terminal punctuation 
> in titles (question marks, etc). So it's not just about the exclamation 
> point. 
>
>
> On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 3:31:48 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am running into a problem with the formatting of titles in footnotes 
>> and bibliographies that have concluding punctuation *in the titles* when 
>> using pandoc to convert from markdown to pdf via LaTeX.
>>
>> I have a bibliographic entry in a json file that is a newspaper article 
>> with a title that ends in an exclamation point. When creating a pdf, the 
>> exclamation mark is turned upside down and the concluding quotation mark is 
>> turned into a single quotation mark. 
>>
>> [image: Text as it appears in pdf]
>>
>> When converting to docx it converts fine.
>>
>> [image: Text as it appears in docx]
>>
>> It also looks fine when I preview citations in Zotero.
>>
>> I am using Zotero to create a json file to contain the citations. 
>> I am then using pandoc (2.11.3.1) and citeproc (0.3.0.1) to create the 
>> documents.
>> Citation file and csl are defined in YAML in the markdown documents, 
>> where I also use package \csquotes. 
>>
>> The json entry looks like this: 
>>
>> ~~~
>> {"id":"noauthor_stamp_1932","container-title":"Daily 
>> Mirror","event-place":"London","issued":{"date-parts":[[1932,4,30]]},"language":"en","page":"9","publisher-place":"London","title":"Stamp 
>> out these bandits!","title-short":"Stamp out these 
>> bandits!","type":"article-newspaper"},
>> ~~~
>>
>> A few notes:
>> - The error occurs whether or not I use the pandoc-quotes.lua to get my 
>> German quotation marks. 
>> - The error occurs with different csl files
>> - The error occurs whether I use the default LaTeX engine or use XeTeX.
>> - The error also occurs when exporting a .bib file from Zotero (whether 
>> in BibTeX or BibLaTeX)
>>
>> I would very much appreciate any assistance in solving this problem!
>>
>

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Re: Problem with pdf conversion, citations with titles that include terminal punctuation

[John MacFarlane]

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This looks like a bug that was fixed a couple versions ago. Try upgrading to the latest release of Pandoc.

> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:13 AM, johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <johannes.c.holz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks to a tip from a LaTeX-knowlegeable friend, I tried using the +smart extension with my pandoc command: pandoc --from markdown+smart KIII_4.md -o KIII_4-new-test.pdf --citeproc 
> 
> This solved the problem. Which is curious, since the LaTeX output looks the same in both cases. (If I export a .tex file instead of a pdf.) 
> 
> But it works! And that's the most important thing. Just wanted to leave the note here, that my question is solved. 
> 
>> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 2:08:12 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> A quick follow-up: the problem also occurs with other terminal punctuation in titles (question marks, etc). So it's not just about the exclamation point. 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 3:31:48 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I am running into a problem with the formatting of titles in footnotes and bibliographies that have concluding punctuation *in the titles* when using pandoc to convert from markdown to pdf via LaTeX.
>>> 
>>> I have a bibliographic entry in a json file that is a newspaper article with a title that ends in an exclamation point. When creating a pdf, the exclamation mark is turned upside down and the concluding quotation mark is turned into a single quotation mark. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When converting to docx it converts fine.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It also looks fine when I preview citations in Zotero.
>>> 
>>> I am using Zotero to create a json file to contain the citations. 
>>> I am then using pandoc (2.11.3.1) and citeproc (0.3.0.1) to create the documents.
>>> Citation file and csl are defined in YAML in the markdown documents, where I also use package \csquotes. 
>>> 
>>> The json entry looks like this: 
>>> 
>>> ~~~
>>> {"id":"noauthor_stamp_1932","container-title":"Daily Mirror","event-place":"London","issued":{"date-parts":[[1932,4,30]]},"language":"en","page":"9","publisher-place":"London","title":"Stamp out these bandits!","title-short":"Stamp out these bandits!","type":"article-newspaper"},
>>> ~~~
>>> 
>>> A few notes:
>>> - The error occurs whether or not I use the pandoc-quotes.lua to get my German quotation marks. 
>>> - The error occurs with different csl files
>>> - The error occurs whether I use the default LaTeX engine or use XeTeX.
>>> - The error also occurs when exporting a .bib file from Zotero (whether in BibTeX or BibLaTeX)
>>> 
>>> I would very much appreciate any assistance in solving this problem!
>>> 
> 
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Re: Problem with pdf conversion, citations with titles that include terminal punctuation

[John Carter Wood]

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Yes, I have now updated the latest version and the problem doesn't seem to 
occur. 

I should know by now that updating should be my first move, but I forgot 
this time... :-)

fiddlosopher schrieb am Samstag, 7. August 2021 um 00:10:37 UTC+2:

> This looks like a bug that was fixed a couple versions ago. Try upgrading 
> to the latest release of Pandoc.
>
> On Aug 6, 2021, at 7:13 AM, johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks to a tip from a LaTeX-knowlegeable friend, I tried using the +smart 
> extension with my pandoc command: pandoc --from markdown+smart KIII_4.md -o 
> KIII_4-new-test.pdf --citeproc 
>
> This solved the problem. Which is curious, since the LaTeX output looks 
> the same in both cases. (If I export a .tex file instead of a pdf.) 
>
> But it works! And that's the most important thing. Just wanted to leave 
> the note here, that my question is solved. 
>
> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 2:08:12 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> A quick follow-up: the problem also occurs with other terminal 
>> punctuation in titles (question marks, etc). So it's not just about the 
>> exclamation point. 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 3:31:48 PM UTC+2 johanne...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I am running into a problem with the formatting of titles in footnotes 
>>> and bibliographies that have concluding punctuation *in the titles* when 
>>> using pandoc to convert from markdown to pdf via LaTeX.
>>>
>>> I have a bibliographic entry in a json file that is a newspaper article 
>>> with a title that ends in an exclamation point. When creating a pdf, the 
>>> exclamation mark is turned upside down and the concluding quotation mark is 
>>> turned into a single quotation mark. 
>>>
>>> [image: Text as it appears in pdf]
>>>
>>> When converting to docx it converts fine.
>>>
>>> [image: Text as it appears in docx]
>>>
>>> It also looks fine when I preview citations in Zotero.
>>>
>>> I am using Zotero to create a json file to contain the citations. 
>>> I am then using pandoc (2.11.3.1) and citeproc (0.3.0.1) to create the 
>>> documents.
>>> Citation file and csl are defined in YAML in the markdown documents, 
>>> where I also use package \csquotes. 
>>>
>>> The json entry looks like this: 
>>>
>>> ~~~
>>> {"id":"noauthor_stamp_1932","container-title":"Daily 
>>> Mirror","event-place":"London","issued":{"date-parts":[[1932,4,30]]},"language":"en","page":"9","publisher-place":"London","title":"Stamp 
>>> out these bandits!","title-short":"Stamp out these 
>>> bandits!","type":"article-newspaper"},
>>> ~~~
>>>
>>> A few notes:
>>> - The error occurs whether or not I use the pandoc-quotes.lua to get my 
>>> German quotation marks. 
>>> - The error occurs with different csl files
>>> - The error occurs whether I use the default LaTeX engine or use XeTeX.
>>> - The error also occurs when exporting a .bib file from Zotero (whether 
>>> in BibTeX or BibLaTeX)
>>>
>>> I would very much appreciate any assistance in solving this problem!
>>>
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