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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't read anything in your quote of the= =20 Chicago Manual of style that justifies the current behavior. Thanks Antonio On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:07:51 AM UTC-7 Bastien Dumont wrote: > Yes, but it is in line with the Chicago Manual of Style, which the defaul= t=20 > stylesheet conforms to. At =C2=A715.50 (2017 edition) it gives the follow= ing=20 > example: > > Google. 2016. "Privacy Policy." Privacy & Terms. Last modified March 25,= =20 > 2016.=20 > http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/. > > The same paragraph states: =E2=80=9CChicago requires an access date in ci= tations=20 > of websites and other sources consulted online only if no date of=20 > publication or revision can be determined from the source=E2=80=9D. > > But you can modify the stylesheet according to your desiderata if you=20 > don't care about following the CMS. > > Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 11:35:32PM, Antonio Piccolboni a =C3= =A9crit : > > Thanks, what I see in my case is that urldate is ignored if either year= =20 > or > > date field are present. Year or date are mandatory or the key contains= =20 > the > > letters n.d. I still find seeing the year twice redundant and not=20 > consistent > > with how other entry types @book or @article display.=20 > >=20 > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 11:26:11 PM UTC-7 Bastien Dumont=20 > wrote: > >=20 > > Here is a sample I got by exporting an item from Zotero and converting= =20 > the > > CSL JSON file to BibLaTeX via Pandoc: > >=20 > > @online{PageWebSimple, > > author =3D {Author, First Name}, > > title =3D {Title of the Web Page}, > > date =3D {2000-10-20}, > > urldate =3D {2019-07-20}, > > url =3D {[1]http://placeholder.url} > > } > >=20 > > Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 03:03:21PM, Antonio Piccolboni a = =C3=A9crit : > > > In what field am I suppose to enter that "June 8, 2021"? I tried year= =20 > and > > > urldate. The former is repeated twice verbatim, the latter ignored. > > Thanks > > > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 1:45:43 PM UTC-7 Bastien Dumont=20 > wrote: > > > > > > Or to write a Lua filter, of course! > > > > > > Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 08:44:17PM, Bastien DUMONT a =C3= =A9crit : > > > > This is because the group ending with a dot contains the author-yea= r > > form > > > of the reference with the year only, whereas the second date is part = of > > the > > > full reference and would contain the full date if it were provided. T= he > > > solution is to provide more information in order to get an output lik= e > > this > > > one: > > > > > > > > Doe, John. 2021. =E2=80=9CA DSL That Is Concise and Fun.=E2=80=9D T= witter. June 8, > > 2021. > > > [1][2]https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/ > > scalding. > > > > > > > > Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 12:49:11PM, John MacFarlane a = =C3=A9crit : > > > > > the CSL has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and I think the first date is coming from the "date" macro, while= =20 > the > > > second is coming from "access," which for web_page uses "issued" date= . > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if this is a bug in the style or if there's some > > subtlety > > > that's wrong in pandoc's CSL processing. Maybe a CSL expert can chime= =20 > in > > > here? Or try using Zotero with chicago-author-date.csl to see what it > > does. > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Antonio Piccolboni < > > picc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am producing pdf and epub from markdown. The bibliography= =20 > is > > in > > > biblatex. There is a problem with @online items in that the year is > > > repeated twice in the output, be it pdf or epub. This is an entry: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @online{scalding, > > > > > > title=3D{A DSL that is concise and fun}, > > > > > > url=3D{[2][3]https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https:/= / > > > [4]twitter.com/scalding}, > > > > > > year=3D{2021} > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > And this is the result: > > > > > > > > > > > > =E2=80=9CA DSL That Is Concise and Fun.=E2=80=9D 2021. 2021. [3= ]https:// > > > [5]web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/scalding. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using the options --citeproc --bibliography biblio.biblate= x > > > > > > > > > > > > Other item types look just fine. > > > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the=20 > Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from i= t, > > > send an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [4][6]https:// > > groups.google.com > > > /d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > > 826a8e3a-24ed-407d-bc2b-8320ac9a75e0n%[7]40googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl= e > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > send > > > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [5][8]https:// > > groups.google.com/d > > > /msgid/pandoc-discuss/B3269C33-2E6B-403C-BC73-4139FC900699%[9] > 40gmail.com > > . > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,= =20 > send > > an > > > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [6][10]https:// > > groups.google.com/d/ > > > msgid/pandoc-discuss/YyzJIbTFWQuWhF0R%40localhost. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d=20 > an > > email > > > to [7]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [8][11] > https://groups.google.com > > /d/msgid/ > > > pandoc-discuss/6300be55-0355-4427-9e48-730a1656ffc9n%[12] > > 40googlegroups.com. > > > > > > References: > > > > > > [1] [13] > https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/ > > scalding > > > [2] [14] > https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/ > > scalding > > > [3] [15] > https://web.archive.org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/ > > scalding > > > [4] [16]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > 826a8e3a-24ed-407d-bc2b-8320ac9a75e0n%40googlegroups.com > > > [5] [17]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > B3269C33-2E6B-403C-BC73-4139FC900699%40gmail.com > > > [6] [18]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > YyzJIbTFWQuWhF0R%40localhost > > > [7] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > [8] [19]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > 6300be55-0355-4427-9e48-730a1656ffc9n% > 40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail& > > utm_source=3Dfooter > >=20 > >=20 > > -- 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We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't read anything in your quote o= f the Chicago Manual of style that justifies the current behavior. Thanks


Antonio

On= Friday, September 23, 2022 at 1:07:51 AM UTC-7 Bastien Dumont wrote:
<= /div>
Yes, but it is in = line with the Chicago Manual of Style, which the default stylesheet conform= s to. At =C2=A715.50 (2017 edition) it gives the following example:

Google. 2016. "Privacy Policy." Privacy & Terms. Last mod= ified March 25, 2016.=20
http://www.goog= le.com/policies/privacy/.

The same paragraph states: =E2=80=9CChicago requires an access date in = citations of websites and other sources consulted online only if no date of= publication or revision can be determined from the source=E2=80=9D.

But you can modify the stylesheet according to your desiderata if you d= on't care about following the CMS.

Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 11:35:32PM, Antonio Piccolboni a = =C3=A9crit :
> Thanks, what I see in my case is that urldate is ignored if eithe= r year or
> date field are present. Year or date are mandatory or the key cont= ains the
> letters n.d. I still find seeing the year twice redundant and not = consistent
> with how other entry types @book or @article display.=20
>=20
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 11:26:11 PM UTC-7 Bastien Dumon= t wrote:
>=20
> Here is a sample I got by exporting an item from Zotero and co= nverting the
> CSL JSON file to BibLaTeX via Pandoc:
>=20
> @online{PageWebSimple,
> author =3D {Author, First Name},
> title =3D {Title of the Web Page},
> date =3D {2000-10-20},
> urldate =3D {2019-07-20},
> url =3D {[1]http://placeholder.url}
> }
>=20
> Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 03:03:21PM, Antonio Picco= lboni a =C3=A9crit :
> > In what field am I suppose to enter that "June 8, 20= 21"? I tried year and
> > urldate. The former is repeated twice verbatim, the latte= r ignored.
> Thanks
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 1:45:43 PM UTC-7 Basti= en Dumont wrote:
> >
> > Or to write a Lua filter, of course!
> >
> > Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 08:44:17PM, Bastien = DUMONT a =C3=A9crit :
> > > This is because the group ending with a dot contains= the author-year
> form
> > of the reference with the year only, whereas the second d= ate is part of
> the
> > full reference and would contain the full date if it were= provided. The
> > solution is to provide more information in order to get a= n output like
> this
> > one:
> > >
> > > Doe, John. 2021. =E2=80=9CA DSL That Is Concise and = Fun.=E2=80=9D Twitter. June 8,
> 2021.
> > [1][2]https://web.archive.org= /web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/
> scalding.
> > >
> > > Le Thursday 22 September 2022 =C3=A0 12:49:11PM, Joh= n MacFarlane a =C3=A9crit :
> > > > the CSL has
> > > >
> > > > <layout suffix=3D".">
> > > > <group delimiter=3D". ">
> > > > <text macro=3D"contributors"/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"date"/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"title"/>
> > > > </group>
> > > > <text macro=3D"description"/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"secondary-contributors&q= uot; prefix=3D". "/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"container-title" pr= efix=3D". "/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"container-contributors&q= uot;/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"edition"/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"locators-chapter"/&= gt;
> > > > <text macro=3D"collection-title-journal= " prefix=3D", " suffix=3D", "/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"locators"/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"collection-title" p= refix=3D". "/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"issue"/>
> > > > <text macro=3D"locators-article"/&= gt;
> > > > <text macro=3D"access" prefix=3D&q= uot;. "/>
> > > > </layout>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > and I think the first date is coming from the &= quot;date" macro, while the
> > second is coming from "access," which for web_p= age uses "issued" date.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if this is a bug in the style = or if there's some
> subtlety
> > that's wrong in pandoc's CSL processing. Maybe a = CSL expert can chime in
> > here? Or try using Zotero with chicago-author-date.csl to= see what it
> does.
> > > >
> > > > > On Sep 22, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Antonio Picc= olboni <
> picc...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, I am producing pdf and epub from markd= own. The bibliography is
> in
> > biblatex. There is a problem with @online items in that t= he year is
> > repeated twice in the output, be it pdf or epub. This is = an entry:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > @online{scalding,
> > > > > title=3D{A DSL that is concise and fun},
> > > > > url=3D{[2][3]https://web.archive.org/w= eb/20211216060806/https://
> > [4]twitter.com/scalding},
> > > > > year=3D{2021}
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > And this is the result:
> > > > >
> > > > > =E2=80=9CA DSL That Is Concise and Fun.=E2= =80=9D 2021. 2021. [3]https://
> > [5]web.archive.= org/web/20211216060806/https://twitter.com/scalding.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using the options --citeproc --biblio= graphy biblio.biblatex
> > > > >
> > > > > Other item types look just fine.
> > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Antonio
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