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* Issues with citation locators in German
@ 2022-01-08 15:30 Siphalor
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From: Siphalor @ 2022-01-08 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I'm trying to use citations in German and running into some issues with the 
locators here.

A minimal-ish example:

*bibliography.bib:*
@Article{Mueller2015,
        author = {Frank Müller},
        title  = {This is annyoing},
        year   = {2015},
}

*Let's start with English, where everything works as expected (locators in 
parenthesis):*
---
lang: en-US
filters:
  - type: citeproc
bibliography:
  - bibliography.bib
---

Citation with nothing: [@Mueller2015, 12].

Citation with English page: [@Mueller2015, p. 12].

Citation with English chapter: [@Mueller2015, chap. 12].

becomes:

<p>Citation with nothing:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(p. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
<p>Citation with English page:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(p. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
<p>Citation with English chapter:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(Chapter 12)]</sup></span>.</p>

*Now let's set the language to German and use German locators as in 
locales-de-DE.xml 
<https://github.com/citation-style-language/locales/blob/master/locales-de-DE.xml>.*

---
lang: de-DE
filters:
  - type: citeproc
bibliography:
  - bibliography.bib
---

Citation with nothing: [@Mueller2015, 12].

Citation with English page: [@Mueller2015, p. 12].

Citation with German page: [@Mueller2015, S. 12].

Citation with German chapter: [@Mueller2015, Kap. 2].

*becomes:*

<p>Citation with nothing:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(S. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
<p>Citation with English page:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, p. 12]</sup></span>.</p>
<p>Citation with German page:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, S. 12]</sup></span>.</p>
<p>Citation with German chapter:<span class="citation" 
data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, Kap. 2]</sup></span>.</p>

As you can see the German locators are not recognized with a German locale.

For this example I'm using the APA numeric style 
<https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa-numeric-superscript-brackets.csl>, 
but I could reproduce the issue with any CSL style that I tried (and that 
differentiates between suffix and locator).

I hope that I provided enough information, I'll provide more if requested.
Also let me know if I should create an GitHub issue for this - I just 
assumed that the issue was on my side :)

Thanks in advance.
Siphalor

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* Re: Issues with citation locators in German
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@ 2022-01-09  1:00   ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2022-01-09  1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Siphalor, pandoc-discuss


Thanks for the report.  I believe I've fixed this with
2b51f54e19373381df7f71f3094f97cc79dd82d2

I had tested with non-US locators, but not with German.
German is distinctive in that the short-form locators
have capital letters (e.g. S.).  We were case-folding
the potential locators before looking them up in the
table, but the keys in the table weren't case-folded,
so German locators failed to match!


Siphalor <info-K+7KtI1Sxfcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Hi,
> I'm trying to use citations in German and running into some issues with the 
> locators here.
>
> A minimal-ish example:
>
> *bibliography.bib:*
> @Article{Mueller2015,
>         author = {Frank Müller},
>         title  = {This is annyoing},
>         year   = {2015},
> }
>
> *Let's start with English, where everything works as expected (locators in 
> parenthesis):*
> ---
> lang: en-US
> filters:
>   - type: citeproc
> bibliography:
>   - bibliography.bib
> ---
>
> Citation with nothing: [@Mueller2015, 12].
>
> Citation with English page: [@Mueller2015, p. 12].
>
> Citation with English chapter: [@Mueller2015, chap. 12].
>
> becomes:
>
> <p>Citation with nothing:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(p. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> <p>Citation with English page:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(p. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> <p>Citation with English chapter:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(Chapter 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
>
> *Now let's set the language to German and use German locators as in 
> locales-de-DE.xml 
> <https://github.com/citation-style-language/locales/blob/master/locales-de-DE.xml>.*
>
> ---
> lang: de-DE
> filters:
>   - type: citeproc
> bibliography:
>   - bibliography.bib
> ---
>
> Citation with nothing: [@Mueller2015, 12].
>
> Citation with English page: [@Mueller2015, p. 12].
>
> Citation with German page: [@Mueller2015, S. 12].
>
> Citation with German chapter: [@Mueller2015, Kap. 2].
>
> *becomes:*
>
> <p>Citation with nothing:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(S. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> <p>Citation with English page:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, p. 12]</sup></span>.</p>
> <p>Citation with German page:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, S. 12]</sup></span>.</p>
> <p>Citation with German chapter:<span class="citation" 
> data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, Kap. 2]</sup></span>.</p>
>
> As you can see the German locators are not recognized with a German locale.
>
> For this example I'm using the APA numeric style 
> <https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa-numeric-superscript-brackets.csl>, 
> but I could reproduce the issue with any CSL style that I tried (and that 
> differentiates between suffix and locator).
>
> I hope that I provided enough information, I'll provide more if requested.
> Also let me know if I should create an GitHub issue for this - I just 
> assumed that the issue was on my side :)
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Siphalor
>
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* Re: Issues with citation locators in German
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@ 2022-01-11  0:11       ` Siphalor
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From: Siphalor @ 2022-01-11  0:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Oof. German capitalization struck again ^^

Thanks for the insanely quick reply and fix. I just built Pandoc from 
source, and it's working fine now.

On Sunday, 9 January 2022 at 02:00:18 UTC+1 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> Thanks for the report. I believe I've fixed this with
> 2b51f54e19373381df7f71f3094f97cc79dd82d2
>
> I had tested with non-US locators, but not with German.
> German is distinctive in that the short-form locators
> have capital letters (e.g. S.). We were case-folding
> the potential locators before looking them up in the
> table, but the keys in the table weren't case-folded,
> so German locators failed to match!
>
>
> Siphalor <in...-K+7KtI1Sxfcb1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to use citations in German and running into some issues with 
> the 
> > locators here.
> >
> > A minimal-ish example:
> >
> > *bibliography.bib:*
> > @Article{Mueller2015,
> > author = {Frank Müller},
> > title = {This is annyoing},
> > year = {2015},
> > }
> >
> > *Let's start with English, where everything works as expected (locators 
> in 
> > parenthesis):*
> > ---
> > lang: en-US
> > filters:
> > - type: citeproc
> > bibliography:
> > - bibliography.bib
> > ---
> >
> > Citation with nothing: [@Mueller2015, 12].
> >
> > Citation with English page: [@Mueller2015, p. 12].
> >
> > Citation with English chapter: [@Mueller2015, chap. 12].
> >
> > becomes:
> >
> > <p>Citation with nothing:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(p. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> > <p>Citation with English page:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(p. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> > <p>Citation with English chapter:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(Chapter 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> >
> > *Now let's set the language to German and use German locators as in 
> > locales-de-DE.xml 
> > <
> https://github.com/citation-style-language/locales/blob/master/locales-de-DE.xml
> >.*
> >
> > ---
> > lang: de-DE
> > filters:
> > - type: citeproc
> > bibliography:
> > - bibliography.bib
> > ---
> >
> > Citation with nothing: [@Mueller2015, 12].
> >
> > Citation with English page: [@Mueller2015, p. 12].
> >
> > Citation with German page: [@Mueller2015, S. 12].
> >
> > Citation with German chapter: [@Mueller2015, Kap. 2].
> >
> > *becomes:*
> >
> > <p>Citation with nothing:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1(S. 12)]</sup></span>.</p>
> > <p>Citation with English page:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, p. 12]</sup></span>.</p>
> > <p>Citation with German page:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, S. 12]</sup></span>.</p>
> > <p>Citation with German chapter:<span class="citation" 
> > data-cites="Mueller2015"><sup>[1, Kap. 2]</sup></span>.</p>
> >
> > As you can see the German locators are not recognized with a German 
> locale.
> >
> > For this example I'm using the APA numeric style 
> > <
> https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/blob/master/apa-numeric-superscript-brackets.csl>, 
>
> > but I could reproduce the issue with any CSL style that I tried (and 
> that 
> > differentiates between suffix and locator).
> >
> > I hope that I provided enough information, I'll provide more if 
> requested.
> > Also let me know if I should create an GitHub issue for this - I just 
> > assumed that the issue was on my side :)
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Siphalor
> >
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> .
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