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That said, we can vote on proposals and pick our= =20 favorites, in order to frame the discussion. About the logo: - We should pick a logo that denotes *what* pandoc does, not *how *it=20 does it. Users (rightly) don't care that pandoc builds an abstract synta= x=20 tree, so that should not be in the logo. (This is also what BP stated in= =20 his Dec16 post) - At its core, pandoc converts documents. It converts *.md* into *.html= =20 and so on*. A quick google image search tells us that *the* canonical=20 icon for conversion is the circle arrow symbol (kinda like the recycling= =20 arrow).=20 example: http://cracksfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/avs-document-c= onverter_98327.jpg - For documents, any stack would=20 do: http://images.clipartpanda.com/document-clipart-082004-green-grunge-= clipart-icon-business-document4.png It's also interesting to see how the rmarkdown folks look at this: http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/images/RMarkdownOutputFormats.png On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 3:03:55 AM UTC-5, Albert Krewinkel wrote: > > =E8=97=A4=E5=8E=9F=E7=94=B1=E6=9D=A5 > w= rites:=20 > > > Then, as some people say, we need commitment of logo in this group (not= =20 > only in=20 > > this thread).=20 > >=20 > > I like the idea to release the final logo in the release date of Pandoc= =20 > 2.0.=20 > > Because meaning (like a story or literature) is important to be=20 > impressively=20 > > remembered for people.=20 > > It seems clear to me that jgm is the only person who can choose an=20 > official pandoc logo.=20 > > However, we, as an community, can still vote on a logo. It won't be=20 > official pandoc logo, but the community logo which can be used to brand= =20 > projects build with or around pandoc. Of course that logo could be=20 > changed as soon as an official logo is chosen.=20 > > My suggestion would be to wait a little while longer before doing any=20 > voting, e.g. until the first of March.=20 > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/dea3f868-3f9c-496e-8d20-5471582f88cb%40googlegroups.com. 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Personally, I wouldn't use a logo chosen without the a= pproval of John; would feel a bit rude tbh. That said, we can vote on propo= sals and pick our favorites, in order to frame the discussion.


About the logo:

  • We s= hould pick a logo that denotes what=C2=A0pandoc does, not how it does it. Users (rightly) don't care that pandoc builds an abstract = syntax tree, so that should not be in the logo. (This is also what BP state= d in his Dec16 post)
  • At its core, pandoc converts documents. It con= verts .md=C2=A0into .html and so on. A quick google image sea= rch tells us that *the* canonical icon for conversion is the circle arrow s= ymbol (kinda like the recycling arrow). example:=C2=A0http://cracksfree.com= /wp-content/uploads/2015/09/avs-document-converter_98327.jpg
  • For do= cuments, any stack would do:=C2=A0http://images.clipartpanda.com/document-c= lipart-082004-green-grunge-clipart-icon-business-document4.png
It's also interesting to see how the rmarkdown folks look at this:

http://rmarkdown.rstudio.com/images/RMarkdownOutputF= ormats.png




<= br>On Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 3:03:55 AM UTC-5, Albert Krewinkel wrot= e:
=E8=97=A4=E5=8E=9F=E7=94=B1= =E6=9D=A5 <sky.y...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Then, as some people say, we need commitment of logo in this group= (not only in
> this thread).=20
>
> I like the idea to release the final logo in the release date of P= andoc 2.0.
> Because meaning (like a story or literature) is important to be im= pressively
> remembered for people.=20

It seems clear to me that jgm is the only person who can choose an
official pandoc logo.

However, we, as an community, can still vote on a logo. It won't be
official pandoc logo, but the community logo which can be used to brand
projects build with or around pandoc. =C2=A0Of course that logo could b= e
changed as soon as an official logo is chosen.

My suggestion would be to wait a little while longer before doing any
voting, e.g. until the first of March.

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