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Right now I us= ed the=20 old trick to turn Google Groups into RSS/Atom feed. But that=E2=80=99s read= only. I tried to use the email interface before, but it is so inconsistent that I= =20 can=E2=80=99t rely on it, so mentally I will almost always force myself to = the=20 web-interface to type/reply anything. (Not to mention the email interface= =20 don=E2=80=99t support Markdown. The web-interface doesn=E2=80=99t either, b= ut there=E2=80=99s=20 Markdown-here. Depending on the content, if it involves links, I think a=20 rendered Markdown is much easier to read.) But then when I got emails from Google Groups, it is very difficult to get= =20 back to a web-interface. Some emails don=E2=80=99t have that link, and for = those=20 that have, the links are hidden. So you have to go back to an earlier email= =20 and press the ... to show the links. Then there=E2=80=99s a bunch of links = closely=20 packed, you just have to click the right one. Then there=E2=80=99s also the wrong link issue. It=E2=80=99s not the first = time people=20 posted a link to a certain thread, but when clicked through it isn=E2=80=99= t that=20 thread. I had complained about this before in This group =E2=80=9Cpandoc-discuss=E2= =80=9D deserve a=20 better spot?=20 (I=20 hope this link goes through!). I kind of feel guilty of it though, because= =20 people kind of feel it in a hostile way; and because for a while, googling= =20 =E2=80=9Cpandoc-discuss=E2=80=9D returns that page first (at least for me) = which is not the=20 intension=E2=80=A6 On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 10:58:34 AM UTC-8, BP Jonsson wrote: Den 2016-12-08 kl. 11:45, skrev Kolen Cheung:=20 > > I kind of hate Google Groups...=20 > > Then use the email interface! :-)=20 > =E2=80=8B --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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It=E2=80=99s exactly the email interface causes problems= =E2=80=A6 I googled that before, but Google doesn=E2=80=99t provide an app = for Google Groups. Right now I used the old trick to turn Google Groups int= o RSS/Atom feed. But that=E2=80=99s read only.

I tried to use the email int= erface before, but it is so inconsistent that I can=E2=80=99t rely on it, s= o mentally I will almost always force myself to the web-interface to type/r= eply anything. (Not to mention the email interface don=E2=80=99t support Ma= rkdown. The web-interface doesn=E2=80=99t either, but there=E2=80=99s Markd= own-here. Depending on the content, if it involves links, I think a rendere= d Markdown is much easier to read.)

But then when I got emails f= rom Google Groups, it is very difficult to get back to a web-interface. Som= e emails don=E2=80=99t have that link, and for those that have, the links a= re hidden. So you have to go back to an earlier email and press the ... to show the links. Then there=E2=80=99s a bunch of links cl= osely packed, you just have to click the right one.

Then there=E2=80=99s also th= e wrong link issue. It=E2=80=99s not the first time people posted a link to= a certain thread, but when clicked through it isn=E2=80=99t that thread.

I had complained about this = before in This group =E2=80=9Cpandoc-discuss=E2=80=9D deserve a better = spot? (I hope this link goes through!). I kind of feel guilty of it tho= ugh, because people kind of feel it in a hostile way; and because for a whi= le, googling =E2=80=9Cpandoc-discuss=E2=80=9D returns that page first (at l= east for me) which is not the intension=E2=80=A6

On Thursday, December 8, 201= 6 at 10:58:34 AM UTC-8, BP Jonsson wrote:

Den 2016-1= 2-08 kl. 11:45, skrev Kolen Cheung:
> I kind of hate Google Groups...

Then use the email interface! :-)

=E2=80=8B

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