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[130.92.0.83]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a10si375207lfs.11.2021.05.08.07.32.49 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 08 May 2021 07:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org designates 130.92.0.83 as permitted sender) client-ip=130.92.0.83; X-Virus-Scanned: By University of Bern - MGW Original-Received: from mail.campus.unibe.ch (aai-edge-02.campus.unibe.ch [130.92.13.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhub-lb2.unibe.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D876850008E for ; Sat, 8 May 2021 16:32:47 +0200 (CEST) Thread-Topic: Suppressing author in citation Thread-Index: AQHXQrWVnBWUPU/nPUe7KyQRdDGWQarYH7gAgAAEm4CAAAtogIAAL3SAgADLtgCAADsEk///3/AAgAAqoo+AABFPAIAAJY9BgAAA6nU= In-Reply-To: <5f9530e6884a4592a129e02c84bab47e-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US Content-Language: de-CH x-originating-ip: [172.18.72.2] X-Original-Sender: denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org designates 130.92.0.83 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=unibe.ch Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:28309 Archived-At: I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want to = look into how the standard styles do this. ________________________________________ Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im A= uftrag von denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39 An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex styl= es. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.) Denis ________________________________________ Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im A= uftrag von Tom McLean Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50 An: pandoc-discuss Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can any= one tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do so. Denis =E2=80=93 as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving i= n the way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual. On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat unusual = way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at https://www.ctan.org/pk= g/biblatex-chicago ________________________________________ Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im Auftrag v= on Bastien DUMONT Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18 An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation biblatex-chicago (via biber) Le Saturday 08 May 2021 =C3=A0 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a =C3=A9cri= t : > What's the citation style? > > Denis > > > > ________________________________________ > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org im Auftrag= von Bastien DUMONT > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50 > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation > > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From bibl= atex's manual > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently from= the regular > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you sh= ould probably > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author comm= and (but I > can't tell you more. > > Le Friday 07 May 2021 =C3=A0 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a =C3=A9crit : > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!! > > > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf tha= t shows > > what I'm getting. > > > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what I'm= using > > in case it's not a pandoc error! > > > > Thank you > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: > > > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote ar= e > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could provi= de a > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem. > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote: > > > > Sorry if I'm not being clear =E2=80=93 that is the citation in the foot= note! > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name). > > > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: > > > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to > > modify your csl file to omit the author names. > > > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org > > wrote: > > > > Hi =E2=80=93 newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial > > mistake, but I can't see for looking... > > > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling > > to suppress author in the reference. > > > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for > > example): > > > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; > > -@schillebeeckx1989c] > > > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as: > > > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal: > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989). > > > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? > > > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), > > advice welcomed! > > > > Many thanks > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email > > to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms= gid/ > > pandoc-discuss/fb15c4e9-1753-4140-9bbe-cd8f5bbc85b6n%40googlegroups.com= . > > > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; -@schille= beeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; -@schillebeeckx2005= ] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx=E2=80=99s work is fundamentall= y a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of Thomas Aquinas. H= e is concerned to recast that thought from the philosophical framework that= Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework shaped by phenomenology. > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1952, > > title =3D {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, > > author =3D {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, > > year =3D {1952}, > > publisher =3D {{'T Groeit}}, > > address =3D {{Antwerpen}} > > } > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1964, > > title =3D {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, > > author =3D {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > > year =3D {1964}, > > edition =3D {7de dr.}, > > publisher =3D {{Nelissen}}, > > address =3D {{Bilthoven}} > > } > > > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a, > > title =3D {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, > > author =3D {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > > year =3D {1967}, > > publisher =3D {{Nelissen}}, > > address =3D {{Bilthoven}} > > } > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2005, > > title =3D {The {{Eucharist}}}, > > author =3D {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > > year =3D {2005}, > > edition =3D {First published 1967}, > > publisher =3D {{Burns \& Oates}}, > > address =3D {{London}}, > > isbn =3D {978-0-86012-400-9}, > > keywords =3D {Transubstantiation}, > > lccn =3D {BX2220 .S3513 2005} > > } > > > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n, > > title =3D {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}}, > > shorttitle =3D {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, > > author =3D {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, > > year =3D {2014}, > > edition =3D {First published 1959}, > > publisher =3D {{Bloomsbury}}, > > address =3D {{London}}, > > isbn =3D {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, > > keywords =3D {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, > > number =3D {1}, > > series =3D {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} > > } > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgi= d/pandoc-discuss/YJZTurQWO/qnuZze%40localhost. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgi= d/pandoc-discuss/1614a3c93e494b0187f0c18b2f0e6f7f%40ub.unibe.ch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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