Re: Recursive citeproc with the multibib lua filter

[Julien Dutant <julien.dutant-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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The bug with quarto: I'm porting my filters to Quarto one by one, haven't 
done this one yet. Thanks for noticing the error, it's very puzzling: 
there's no error or output log in this filter. Perhaps it's because it uses 
"pandoc.utils.run_json_filter" to call citeproc by running pandoc itself 
(an approach suited to much older versions of pandoc!). But I'm puzzled how 
that could generate an error only if verbosity > ERROR. Perhaps the 
document you've been trying has citations not found, and the pandoc 
sub-process created by run_json_filter tries to print out a warning, which 
somehow causes Quarto to hang.

I'm pretty confident I could add the feature to Albert's filters (my own 
priority would be the section-bibs one though). I'd just ask him first 
whether he'd be interested in the PR, otherwise it's best to create a 
separate filter that is used in addition to those. I've posted issues in 
the repos about this:
https://github.com/pandoc-ext/section-bibliographies/issues/6
https://github.com/pandoc-ext/multibib/issues/3


All the best,



On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 2:15:47 PM UTC Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos 
wrote:

> Hi Julien, I was looking through your code. Do you have a good idea about 
> how to implement your recursive solution to the current 
> multibib/multiple-bibliographies filter? Or do we need to rely on Albert's 
> expertise in the multibib/multiple-bibliographies filter for this? 
>
> While we're at this subject, I just noticed, after a full day's work 
> trying to figure it out, that the filter will cause Quarto to hang 
> indefinitively unless one adds `verbosity: ERROR` to opts. This does not 
> affect Pandoc apparently.
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 11:40:39 AM UTC-3 Julien Dutant wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd be interested in developing this feature for Pandoc-ext's multibib 
>> and especially section-bibliographies and multi-bib (
>> https://github.com/pandoc-ext/section-bibliographies), if Albert is 
>> willing to consider the addition. I've already developed a recursive 
>> bibliography filter:
>> https://github.com/dialoa/dialectica-filters/tree/main/recursive-citeproc
>> It's not the most efficient solution for more recent versions of Pandoc 
>> (this was back in 2.6 I think, and my code isn't the most elegant), but it 
>> works. 
>>
>> It was developed for the journal Dialectica, which has citations within 
>> the bibliography. I'm thinking of porting dialectica to Quarto and make use 
>> of section-bibliographies, so I'd be needing that feature anyway. 
>>
>> Against the inclusion of such a feature: citations within bibliography 
>> entries are a Bib(La)Tex only feature, they may disappear as CSL/JSON takes 
>> over.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 3:01:35 AM UTC Bernardo C. D. A. 
>> Vasconcelos wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, I hope you are all doing well.
>>> Basically, this is a case of using the multi bib lua filter 
>>> <https://github.com/pandoc-ext/multibib> with other citations within 
>>> the bibliography. I was wondering if this could be pulled off. For context, 
>>> one of the bibliography files is actually a glossary that could contain 
>>> other citations in the `note` field of the BibTeX entry. Here is a MWE 
>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/diiwwjds8kha214/Multibib.zip?dl=1> to 
>>> illustrate what looks like in practice. What do you think?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bernardo
>>>
>>

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