docx writer and localized style names

docx writer and localized style names

[Till A. Heilmann]

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When I write a docx file with pandoc, some of the text elements in the 
resulting Word document show up with the localized names of the styles 
(because of my German Office), namely: 

- "Standard" (instead of "Normal"),
- "Titel" (instead of "Title") and 
- "Datum" (instead of "Date") 

Most other text elements' styles have the 'original' American-English 
names, though, for instance: 

- "Heading 1" … (instead of localized "Überschrift 1" …) 
- "Block Quote" (instead of localized "Blocktext") 
- "Footnote Reference" (instead of localized "Fußnotenzeichen") 

I'd prefer a consistent behavior here, preferably the localized style names 
(which would make it easier to adapt pandoc-generated Word files to 
pre-existing custom styles in personal templates). 

Now, I don't know about the pandoc writer modules, but in VBA you can refer 
to Word styles in two ways: Either you use a literal string to give the 
style's (localized) name, or you use the element of class WdBuiltinStyle. 
So, for example, you can say either 

ActiveDocument.Styles("Body Text") 

or 

ActiveDocument.Styles(wdStyleBodyText) 

The second option is the better one, since it works in all localized 
versions of Office. Can we do something similar in pandoc's docx writer 
module? 

Thanks, 
Till

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Re: docx writer and localized style names

[John MacFarlane]

Pandoc doesn't do any localization, and it doesn't call any
MS libraries -- everything is done by hand with hard-coded (English)
style names.  So it must be Word that is changing the style names
after loading the file...

+++ Till A. Heilmann [May 31 13 10:21 ]:
>    When I write a docx file with pandoc, some of the text elements in the
>    resulting Word document show up with the localized names of the styles
>    (because of my German Office), namely:
>    - "Standard" (instead of "Normal"),
>    - "Titel" (instead of "Title") and
>    - "Datum" (instead of "Date")
>    Most other text elements' styles have the 'original' American-English
>    names, though, for instance:
>    - "Heading 1" (instead of localized "berschrift 1" )
>    - "Block Quote" (instead of localized "Blocktext")
>    - "Footnote Reference" (instead of localized "Funotenzeichen")
>    I'd prefer a consistent behavior here, preferably the localized style
>    names (which would make it easier to adapt pandoc-generated Word files
>    to pre-existing custom styles in personal templates).
>    Now, I don't know about the pandoc writer modules, but in VBA you can
>    refer to Word styles in two ways: Either you use a literal string to
>    give the style's (localized) name, or you use the element of class
>    WdBuiltinStyle. So, for example, you can say either
>    ActiveDocument.Styles("Body Text")
>    or
>    ActiveDocument.Styles(wdStyleBodyText)
>    The second option is the better one, since it works in all localized
>    versions of Office. Can we do something similar in pandoc's docx writer
>    module?
>    Thanks,
>    Till
> 
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Re: docx writer and localized style names

[nkalvi]

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You may want to follow this:
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/1933#issuecomment-75368645


On Friday, May 31, 2013 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, Till A. Heilmann wrote:
>
> When I write a docx file with pandoc, some of the text elements in the 
> resulting Word document show up with the localized names of the styles 
> (because of my German Office), namely: 
>
> - "Standard" (instead of "Normal"),
> - "Titel" (instead of "Title") and 
> - "Datum" (instead of "Date") 
>
> Most other text elements' styles have the 'original' American-English 
> names, though, for instance: 
>
> - "Heading 1" … (instead of localized "Überschrift 1" …) 
> - "Block Quote" (instead of localized "Blocktext") 
> - "Footnote Reference" (instead of localized "Fußnotenzeichen") 
>
> I'd prefer a consistent behavior here, preferably the localized style 
> names (which would make it easier to adapt pandoc-generated Word files to 
> pre-existing custom styles in personal templates). 
>
> Now, I don't know about the pandoc writer modules, but in VBA you can 
> refer to Word styles in two ways: Either you use a literal string to give 
> the style's (localized) name, or you use the element of class 
> WdBuiltinStyle. So, for example, you can say either 
>
> ActiveDocument.Styles("Body Text") 
>
> or 
>
> ActiveDocument.Styles(wdStyleBodyText) 
>
> The second option is the better one, since it works in all localized 
> versions of Office. Can we do something similar in pandoc's docx writer 
> module? 
>
> Thanks, 
> Till
>

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Re: docx writer and localized style names

[nkalvi]

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By the way, while a solution for Pandoc is being worked out, you may want 
to try this work-around:


   1. Save reference document (it needs to be output from Pandoc if you're 
   modifying Pandoc's own styles) as template.
   2. Apply this template (choosing to automatically apply styles) to the 
   one produced by Pandoc.

Unfortunately this does require that you have Word installed and invoked 
for each (pan)doc requiring customization. I'm not sure whether applying 
template can be automated.

On Friday, May 31, 2013 at 1:21:24 PM UTC-4, Till A. Heilmann wrote:
>
> When I write a docx file with pandoc, some of the text elements in the 
> resulting Word document show up with the localized names of the styles 
> (because of my German Office), namely: 
>
> - "Standard" (instead of "Normal"),
> - "Titel" (instead of "Title") and 
> - "Datum" (instead of "Date") 
>
> Most other text elements' styles have the 'original' American-English 
> names, though, for instance: 
>
> - "Heading 1" … (instead of localized "Überschrift 1" …) 
> - "Block Quote" (instead of localized "Blocktext") 
> - "Footnote Reference" (instead of localized "Fußnotenzeichen") 
>
> I'd prefer a consistent behavior here, preferably the localized style 
> names (which would make it easier to adapt pandoc-generated Word files to 
> pre-existing custom styles in personal templates). 
>
> Now, I don't know about the pandoc writer modules, but in VBA you can 
> refer to Word styles in two ways: Either you use a literal string to give 
> the style's (localized) name, or you use the element of class 
> WdBuiltinStyle. So, for example, you can say either 
>
> ActiveDocument.Styles("Body Text") 
>
> or 
>
> ActiveDocument.Styles(wdStyleBodyText) 
>
> The second option is the better one, since it works in all localized 
> versions of Office. Can we do something similar in pandoc's docx writer 
> module? 
>
> Thanks, 
> Till
>

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Re: docx writer and localized style names

[nkalvi]

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I've added a feature request here - please add your input if possible.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pandoc-discuss/oLhedoPmMIs

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