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@ 2019-08-01  1:10 Luis Rivera
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From: Luis Rivera @ 2019-08-01  1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello!

There is this distro, Tiny Core Linux (
https://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/): it let's you boot a tiny core 
linux (duh!) on a pendrive, and read/write on the pen drive and other 
devices under certain conditions. I wonder which pandoc binary may work on 
such an artificial environment, to carry around on pen drives or to 
refurbish some old (2005) hardware I have. Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advance,

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* Re: tiny core linux
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@ 2019-08-01  7:27   ` Lukas Atkinson
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Pandoc doesn't require special hardware. The normal Pandoc binaries should
work. Depending on which output formats you target, you will also have to
install extra dependencies. E.g. LaTeX is so large that it might not be
feasible on a very space-constrained system.

For a couple of months I used a Linux installed on a bootable thumb drive
as my daily driver, and didn't encounter any issues with any software. I
used normal Ubuntu though, not a stripped down distro like Tiny Core.

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 03:10, Luis Rivera <jlrn77-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> There is this distro, Tiny Core Linux (
> https://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/): it let's you boot a tiny core
> linux (duh!) on a pendrive, and read/write on the pen drive and other
> devices under certain conditions. I wonder which pandoc binary may work on
> such an artificial environment, to carry around on pen drives or to
> refurbish some old (2005) hardware I have. Any suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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* Re: tiny core linux
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@ 2019-08-12 16:02       ` Luis Rivera
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From: Luis Rivera @ 2019-08-12 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:27:50 UTC-5, latk wrote:
>
> Pandoc doesn't require special hardware. The normal Pandoc binaries should 
> work. 
>

I am unhappy to report that, apparently, it does. The distributed Linux 
binaries work on x86_64 machines, even under Tiny Core, but don't on ARM or 
i386 hardware, under emulation on qemu. 
 
I don't know how to post a request for 32 bit Linux binaries, the same way 
that there are Win32 and Win64 binaries in the distro. I don't use Macs, so 
I don't know what's the situation there.

Cheers,

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* Re: tiny core linux
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@ 2019-08-12 16:26           ` BPJ
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There are 32 bit Windows binaries in the releases, so you should probably
be able to build it yourself on Linux. If your resources are limited that
may be a problem. Stack downloads and compiles a ton of stuff in the build
process and probably needs a lot of memory too. I used to be able to build
on my oldish 64 bit laptop (Ubuntu) but my setup for doing so was
(stupidly) lost when that laptop died.

Den mån 12 aug. 2019 18:06Luis Rivera <jlrn77-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

>
>
> On Thursday, 1 August 2019 02:27:50 UTC-5, latk wrote:
>>
>> Pandoc doesn't require special hardware. The normal Pandoc binaries
>> should work.
>>
>
> I am unhappy to report that, apparently, it does. The distributed Linux
> binaries work on x86_64 machines, even under Tiny Core, but don't on ARM or
> i386 hardware, under emulation on qemu.
>
> I don't know how to post a request for 32 bit Linux binaries, the same way
> that there are Win32 and Win64 binaries in the distro. I don't use Macs, so
> I don't know what's the situation there.
>
> Cheers,
>
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@ 2019-08-12 20:14               ` Luis Rivera
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On Monday, 12 August 2019 11:26:19 UTC-5, BP wrote:
>
> There are 32 bit Windows binaries in the releases, so you should probably 
> be able to build it yourself on Linux. If your resources are limited that 
> may be a problem. 
>

which is exactly my case...
 

> Stack downloads and compiles a ton of stuff in the build process and 
> probably needs a lot of memory too. [...]
>

bad news for me.

apparently qemu-x86_64 is broken, so I'm out of luck...

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* Re: tiny core linux
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@ 2019-08-12 22:46                   ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2019-08-12 22:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luis Rivera, pandoc-discuss


You can always spin up a build machine in the cloud, with more
resources, and then use the resulting binary on your tiny machine.

Luis Rivera <jlrn77-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> On Monday, 12 August 2019 11:26:19 UTC-5, BP wrote:
>>
>> There are 32 bit Windows binaries in the releases, so you should probably 
>> be able to build it yourself on Linux. If your resources are limited that 
>> may be a problem. 
>>
>
> which is exactly my case...
>  
>
>> Stack downloads and compiles a ton of stuff in the build process and 
>> probably needs a lot of memory too. [...]
>>
>
> bad news for me.
>
> apparently qemu-x86_64 is broken, so I'm out of luck...
>
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@ 2019-08-15 19:01                       ` Luis Rivera
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On Monday, 12 August 2019 17:46:44 UTC-5, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>
> You can always spin up a build machine in the cloud, with more 
> resources, and then use the resulting binary on your tiny machine. 
>
>
I fear I don't know how to do that; in fact, once I tried to compile pandoc 
on my own, and found the whole cabal/ghc incantation overwhelming (I am no 
hacker, only and advanced luser). 

However, I am happy to report that, after some sort of inspiration, it 
occurred to me that I didn't have to run the qemu emulator to execute the 
Linux x86_64 executable on the 32 bit system and machine, if I could run 
the Windoze 32 bit executable under `wine` (n.b. a compatibility layer, not 
an emulator) on the Tiny Core 32 / Intelx86_32 machine. And it worked (at 
least so far)! 

I'm leaving this crumb for others to pick up.

Cheers!

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@ 2020-05-06 23:39                           ` Luis Rivera
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Well: I fear this workaround does not work anymore: the wine library is a 
few steps behind windows development, and the new win architecture is not 
fully supported.

So, should I ask for a Linux static build for 32 bits?

Sincerely,

Luis

On Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:01:10 UTC-5, Luis Rivera wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, 12 August 2019 17:46:44 UTC-5, John MacFarlane wrote:
>>
>>
>> You can always spin up a build machine in the cloud, with more 
>> resources, and then use the resulting binary on your tiny machine. 
>>
>>
> I fear I don't know how to do that; in fact, once I tried to compile 
> pandoc on my own, and found the whole cabal/ghc incantation overwhelming (I 
> am no hacker, only and advanced luser). 
>
> However, I am happy to report that, after some sort of inspiration, it 
> occurred to me that I didn't have to run the qemu emulator to execute the 
> Linux x86_64 executable on the 32 bit system and machine, if I could run 
> the Windoze 32 bit executable under `wine` (n.b. a compatibility layer, not 
> an emulator) on the Tiny Core 32 / Intelx86_32 machine. And it worked (at 
> least so far)! 
>
> I'm leaving this crumb for others to pick up.
>
> Cheers!
>
>

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If you insist on running on old hardware, one way could be having a more 
pandoc-compatible device on your network to use it from the older one.
Or you could even setup some kind of pandoc server; there are a few 
solutions proposed when you search.

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If you insist on running on old hardware, one way could be having a more 
pandoc-compatible device on your network to use as a pandoc server; there 
are a few solutions proposed when you search.

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