Re: citeproc and "related" field

[Denis Maier <maier.de-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Of course, it is worth to submit an issue for this.
But don't expect this to be incorporated to quickly. There are still quite 
a few old debts left ...

Denis

Am Dienstag, 20. August 2019 10:22:57 UTC+2 schrieb Guido Milanese:
>
> Thank you. Indeed, the CSL variables for translation/reprint and the like 
> are the same of the old BibTeX files, now deprecated by the Biblatex 
> format. This new  format is much more practical, but I agree that a 
> conversion would be a bit heavy. A sort of pre-filter should read the 
> related entry, extract the needed data (e.g. title), add data with a new 
> label (e.g.  original-title), and reshape the cited item. Not difficult, 
> but a bit cumbersome. Do you think that a proposal would be worth 
> submitting?
>
> Il giorno mar 20 ago 2019 alle ore 09:06 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss <
> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>> ha scritto:
>
>> To the best of my knowledge, CSL does not provide any mechanisms for 
>> dealing with relations between different items. (For example, that’s why 
>> pandoc-citeproc needs to pull all the data from a `crossref`ed item and 
>> fold it into the `crossref`ing item when translating from bibtex/biblatex 
>> to CSL JSON/YAML.)
>>
>> CSL-M has “`cs:alternative` to add supplementary reference information to 
>> a cited item, such as a translation or reprint” (
>> https://citeproc-js.readthedocs.io/en/latest/csl-m/index.html#cs-alternative-extension), 
>> but even if we were to consider adding CSL-M extensions to pandoc-citeproc, 
>> we would still have to fold all the information from a number of different 
>> biblatex items (translation/reprint; orig. lang. version; earlier print; …) 
>> into one CSL JSON/YAML item.
>>
>> Anyone who sees this a unsatisfactory could of course submit a proposal 
>> for enhancing CSL itself (
>> https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/issues).
>>
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 6:17 AM, John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> > The question is whether CSL has any variables corresponding to
>> > these things.
>> >
>> > 
>> http://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html#standard-variables
>> >
>> > If so, we could try to be smarter about translating from
>> > bibtex/biblatex to citeproc json. If not, then it's out of scope
>> > for pandoc-citeproc.
>> >
>> > Guido Milanese guido....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org <javascript:> writes:
>> >
>> > > I am seriously experimenting pandoc filter "citeproc" as an 
>> interesting
>> > > alternative to the workflow I am more used to, i.e. markdown to write 
>> and
>> > > then compilation -- through pandoc -- as LaTeX + biber + Biblatex. I
>> > > noticed that the filter supports the BibTeX "crossref" field (e.g. an
>> > > article published in a volume of Proceedings) but not the "related" 
>> fields,
>> > > such as "translationof", "multivolume" and the like. Is this feature
>> > > planned? This would be a great advantage for those who save data in 
>> BibTeX
>> > > format.
>> > > Thank you. The pandoc "constellation" is incredibly useful and truly 
>> smart.
>> > > guido (NW Italy)
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