* Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc @ 2021-07-23 7:07 Ashim Kapoor [not found] ` <9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Ashim Kapoor @ 2021-07-23 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1107 bytes --] Dear All, I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc It says : *Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the citeproc <https://github.com/jgm/citeproc> library, and no external filter is needed.* <https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/actions> This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the use of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support.) What I do not understand is : Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support ? How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER versions of pandoc? Please clarify. Thank you, Ashim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1621 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-23 7:23 ` denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [not found] ` <3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2021-07-23 7:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2320 bytes --] IIUC, this means: 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t know how exaclty). 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc 2b) now citeproc is used... John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. Best, Denis Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc Dear All, I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc It says : Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the citeproc<https://github.com/jgm/citeproc> library, and no external filter is needed. This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the use of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support.) What I do not understand is : Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support ? How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER versions of pandoc? Please clarify. Thank you, Ashim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org<mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6241 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-23 7:59 ` Ashim Kapoor [not found] ` <CAC8=1er-3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA+nT4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Ashim Kapoor @ 2021-07-23 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw Dear Denis, So if I get it right, 1. Versions before 1.12 did not have an external library. The citeproc code was a part of pandoc. 2. Then this code was factored out in pandoc-citeproc. 3. Then citeproc was born out of (2). Is that correct? Many thanks, Ashim On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > IIUC, this means: > > > > 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t know how exaclty). > > 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. > > 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc > > 2b) now citeproc is used... > > > > John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. > > > > Best, > > Denis > > > > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 > An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > > > Dear All, > > > > I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc > > > > It says : > > > > Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the citeproc library, and no external filter is needed. > > This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the use of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support.) > > What I do not understand is : > > Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support ? How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER versions of pandoc? > > Please clarify. > > Thank you, > > Ashim > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAC8%3D1er-3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA%2BnT4w%40mail.gmail.com. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <CAC8=1er-3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA+nT4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-23 8:22 ` denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [not found] ` <ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2021-07-23 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 10:00 > An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > Betreff: Re: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > Dear Denis, > > So if I get it right, > > 1. Versions before 1.12 did not have an external library. The citeproc code was > a part of pandoc. Yes. > 2. Then this code was factored out in pandoc-citeproc. Yes. > 3. Then citeproc was born out of (2). No. The new citeproc is a complete rewrite from scratch and does not depend on pandoc-citeproc. But again, I may misunderstand something. Let's wait for John to clarify that. Denis > > Is that correct? > > Many thanks, > Ashim > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > IIUC, this means: > > > > > > > > 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t know how > exaclty). > > > > 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. > > > > 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc > > > > 2b) now citeproc is used... > > > > > > > > John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Denis > > > > > > > > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc- > discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > > Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 > > An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > > Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc > > > > > > > > It says : > > > > > > > > Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the citeproc > library, and no external filter is needed. > > > > This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the use > > of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions of pandoc > > have integrated citeproc support.) > > > > What I do not understand is : > > > > Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support ? > How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER versions of > pandoc? > > > > Please clarify. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Ashim > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617- > a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAC8%3D1er- > 3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA%2BnT4w%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13%40unibe.ch. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-23 17:14 ` John MacFarlane [not found] ` <m2bl6tj6k2.fsf-d8241O7hbXoP5tpWdHSM3tPlBySK3R6THiGdP5j34PU@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-07-23 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw Correct. <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> writes: >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor >> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 10:00 >> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> Betreff: Re: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc >> >> Dear Denis, >> >> So if I get it right, >> >> 1. Versions before 1.12 did not have an external library. The citeproc code was >> a part of pandoc. > Yes. > >> 2. Then this code was factored out in pandoc-citeproc. > Yes. > >> 3. Then citeproc was born out of (2). > No. The new citeproc is a complete rewrite from scratch and does not depend on pandoc-citeproc. > > But again, I may misunderstand something. Let's wait for John to clarify that. > > Denis >> >> Is that correct? >> >> Many thanks, >> Ashim >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: >> > >> > IIUC, this means: >> > >> > >> > >> > 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t know how >> exaclty). >> > >> > 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. >> > >> > 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc >> > >> > 2b) now citeproc is used... >> > >> > >> > >> > John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Denis >> > >> > >> > >> > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc- >> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> > Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor >> > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 >> > An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> >> > Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear All, >> > >> > >> > >> > I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc >> > >> > >> > >> > It says : >> > >> > >> > >> > Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the citeproc >> library, and no external filter is needed. >> > >> > This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the use >> > of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions of pandoc >> > have integrated citeproc support.) >> > >> > What I do not understand is : >> > >> > Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support ? >> How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER versions of >> pandoc? >> > >> > Please clarify. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > Ashim >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pandoc-discuss" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617- >> a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pandoc-discuss" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- >> discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pandoc-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAC8%3D1er- >> 3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA%2BnT4w%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13%40unibe.ch. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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* Re: AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <m2bl6tj6k2.fsf-d8241O7hbXoP5tpWdHSM3tPlBySK3R6THiGdP5j34PU@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-27 6:46 ` Ashim Kapoor [not found] ` <CAC8=1eqOfqBMPoT4pV8QFMYD74-Zh8KesdSCF8AKoiwgAtArRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Ashim Kapoor @ 2021-07-27 6:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw; +Cc: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 Dear John and Denis, I have a small query. The following 2 incantations are generating the SAME demo.html:- pandoc -F pandoc-crossref demo.md -o demo.html --bibliography=sample-bibliography.bib pandoc -F pandoc-crossref -F pandoc-citeproc demo.md -o demo.html --bibliography=sample-bibliography.bib My pandoc version is: $ pandoc -v pandoc 2.2.1 Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.5.1, texmath 0.11.1, skylighting 0.7.5 Default user data directory: /home/ashim/.pandoc Copyright (C) 2006-2018 John MacFarlane Web: http://pandoc.org This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is no warranty, not even for merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. My query is : Isn't it essential to use the pandoc-citeproc filter ? In which version of pandoc is pandoc-citeproc vs citeproc used? My sample-bibliography.bib contains this :- @article{unprocessedCitation, title = {Testing Pandoc}, author = {Kapoor,Ashim}, journal = {My Quarterly Journal}, pages = {1--110}, year = {2001}, publisher = {JSTOR} } I got demo.md from here : wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lierdakil/pandoc-crossref/master/docs/demo/demo.md Thank you, Ashim On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 10:45 PM John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > Correct. > > <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> writes: > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > >> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > >> Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 10:00 > >> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > >> Betreff: Re: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > >> > >> Dear Denis, > >> > >> So if I get it right, > >> > >> 1. Versions before 1.12 did not have an external library. The citeproc code was > >> a part of pandoc. > > Yes. > > > >> 2. Then this code was factored out in pandoc-citeproc. > > Yes. > > > >> 3. Then citeproc was born out of (2). > > No. The new citeproc is a complete rewrite from scratch and does not depend on pandoc-citeproc. > > > > But again, I may misunderstand something. Let's wait for John to clarify that. > > > > Denis > >> > >> Is that correct? > >> > >> Many thanks, > >> Ashim > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > IIUC, this means: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t know how > >> exaclty). > >> > > >> > 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. > >> > > >> > 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc > >> > > >> > 2b) now citeproc is used... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > > >> > Denis > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc- > >> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > >> > Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > >> > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 > >> > An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > >> > Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear All, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > It says : > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the citeproc > >> library, and no external filter is needed. > >> > > >> > This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the use > >> > of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions of pandoc > >> > have integrated citeproc support.) > >> > > >> > What I do not understand is : > >> > > >> > Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc support ? > >> How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER versions of > >> pandoc? > >> > > >> > Please clarify. > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > > >> > Ashim > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617- > >> a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > >> discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAC8%3D1er- > >> 3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA%2BnT4w%40mail.gmail.com. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13%40unibe.ch. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/m2bl6tj6k2.fsf%40Johns-Air.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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* AW: AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <CAC8=1eqOfqBMPoT4pV8QFMYD74-Zh8KesdSCF8AKoiwgAtArRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-29 12:37 ` denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [not found] ` <7c95a06586924d0f843ba484f9e32f6e-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2021-07-29 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ashimkapoor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Ashim Kapoor <ashimkapoor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juli 2021 08:46 > An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> > Betreff: Re: AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > Dear John and Denis, > > I have a small query. > > The following 2 incantations are generating the SAME demo.html:- > > pandoc -F pandoc-crossref demo.md -o demo.html --bibliography=sample- > bibliography.bib > pandoc -F pandoc-crossref -F pandoc-citeproc demo.md -o demo.html -- > bibliography=sample-bibliography.bib > > My pandoc version is: > > $ pandoc -v > pandoc 2.2.1 > Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.5.1, texmath 0.11.1, skylighting 0.7.5 Default > user data directory: /home/ashim/.pandoc Copyright (C) 2006-2018 John > MacFarlane > Web: http://pandoc.org > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. > There is no warranty, not even for merchantability or fitness for a particular > purpose. > > My query is : Isn't it essential to use the pandoc-citeproc filter ? I think `--bibliography=sample-bibliography.bib` implicitely calls pandoc-citeproc so the two commands are equivalent. > > In which version of pandoc is pandoc-citeproc vs citeproc used? If my understanding of the changelog is correct, the new citeproc has been included in 2.11 https://pandoc.org/releases.html > > My sample-bibliography.bib contains this :- > > @article{unprocessedCitation, > title = {Testing Pandoc}, > author = {Kapoor,Ashim}, > journal = {My Quarterly Journal}, > pages = {1--110}, > year = {2001}, > publisher = {JSTOR} > } > > I got demo.md from here : > wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lierdakil/pandoc- > crossref/master/docs/demo/demo.md > > Thank you, > Ashim > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 10:45 PM John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > Correct. > > > > <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> writes: > > > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > >> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > >> <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 10:00 > > >> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > >> Betreff: Re: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > >> > > >> Dear Denis, > > >> > > >> So if I get it right, > > >> > > >> 1. Versions before 1.12 did not have an external library. The > > >> citeproc code was a part of pandoc. > > > Yes. > > > > > >> 2. Then this code was factored out in pandoc-citeproc. > > > Yes. > > > > > >> 3. Then citeproc was born out of (2). > > > No. The new citeproc is a complete rewrite from scratch and does not > depend on pandoc-citeproc. > > > > > > But again, I may misunderstand something. Let's wait for John to clarify > that. > > > > > > Denis > > >> > > >> Is that correct? > > >> > > >> Many thanks, > > >> Ashim > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > IIUC, this means: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t > > >> > know how > > >> exaclty). > > >> > > > >> > 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. > > >> > > > >> > 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc > > >> > > > >> > 2b) now citeproc is used... > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Best, > > >> > > > >> > Denis > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc- > > >> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > > >> > Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > > >> > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 > > >> > An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > > >> > Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Dear All, > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > It says : > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the > > >> > citeproc > > >> library, and no external filter is needed. > > >> > > > >> > This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the > > >> > use of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions > > >> > of pandoc have integrated citeproc support.) > > >> > > > >> > What I do not understand is : > > >> > > > >> > Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc > support ? > > >> How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER > > >> versions of pandoc? > > >> > > > >> > Please clarify. > > >> > > > >> > Thank you, > > >> > > > >> > Ashim > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > >> > Google Groups > > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > >> > send an > > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617 > > >> - a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > >> > Google Groups > > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > >> > send an > > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > >> discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > >> send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAC8%3D1er- > > >> > 3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA%2BnT4w%40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > discuss/ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13%40unibe.ch. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/m2bl6tj6k2.fsf%40Johns- > Air.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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* Re: AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc [not found] ` <7c95a06586924d0f843ba484f9e32f6e-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-07-30 3:59 ` Ashim Kapoor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Ashim Kapoor @ 2021-07-30 3:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0; +Cc: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw Dear Denis, Many thanks and Best Regards, Ashim On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Ashim Kapoor <ashimkapoor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juli 2021 08:46 > > An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> > > Betreff: Re: AW: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > > > Dear John and Denis, > > > > I have a small query. > > > > The following 2 incantations are generating the SAME demo.html:- > > > > pandoc -F pandoc-crossref demo.md -o demo.html --bibliography=sample- > > bibliography.bib > > pandoc -F pandoc-crossref -F pandoc-citeproc demo.md -o demo.html -- > > bibliography=sample-bibliography.bib > > > > My pandoc version is: > > > > $ pandoc -v > > pandoc 2.2.1 > > Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.5.1, texmath 0.11.1, skylighting 0.7.5 Default > > user data directory: /home/ashim/.pandoc Copyright (C) 2006-2018 John > > MacFarlane > > Web: http://pandoc.org > > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. > > There is no warranty, not even for merchantability or fitness for a particular > > purpose. > > > > My query is : Isn't it essential to use the pandoc-citeproc filter ? > > I think `--bibliography=sample-bibliography.bib` implicitely calls pandoc-citeproc so the two commands are equivalent. > > > > > In which version of pandoc is pandoc-citeproc vs citeproc used? > If my understanding of the changelog is correct, the new citeproc has been included in 2.11 > https://pandoc.org/releases.html > > > > > My sample-bibliography.bib contains this :- > > > > @article{unprocessedCitation, > > title = {Testing Pandoc}, > > author = {Kapoor,Ashim}, > > journal = {My Quarterly Journal}, > > pages = {1--110}, > > year = {2001}, > > publisher = {JSTOR} > > } > > > > I got demo.md from here : > > wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/lierdakil/pandoc- > > crossref/master/docs/demo/demo.md > > > > Thank you, > > Ashim > > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 10:45 PM John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > > > > Correct. > > > > > > <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> writes: > > > > > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > >> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > >> <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > > > >> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 10:00 > > > >> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > >> Betreff: Re: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > > >> > > > >> Dear Denis, > > > >> > > > >> So if I get it right, > > > >> > > > >> 1. Versions before 1.12 did not have an external library. The > > > >> citeproc code was a part of pandoc. > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > >> 2. Then this code was factored out in pandoc-citeproc. > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > >> 3. Then citeproc was born out of (2). > > > > No. The new citeproc is a complete rewrite from scratch and does not > > depend on pandoc-citeproc. > > > > > > > > But again, I may misunderstand something. Let's wait for John to clarify > > that. > > > > > > > > Denis > > > >> > > > >> Is that correct? > > > >> > > > >> Many thanks, > > > >> Ashim > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:53 PM <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > IIUC, this means: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > 1. versions before 1.12 had integrated citeproc support (don’t > > > >> > know how > > > >> exaclty). > > > >> > > > > >> > 2. versions beginning with 1.12 rely on an external library. > > > >> > > > > >> > 2a) first that was pandoc-citeproc > > > >> > > > > >> > 2b) now citeproc is used... > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > John will know the details, but that is how I’d understand this. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Best, > > > >> > > > > >> > Denis > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc- > > > >> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > > > >> > Im Auftrag von Ashim Kapoor > > > >> > Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Juli 2021 09:08 > > > >> > An: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> > > > >> > Betreff: Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > I am reading this : https://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > It says : > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Note: This package is no longer maintained. Pandoc now uses the > > > >> > citeproc > > > >> library, and no external filter is needed. > > > >> > > > > >> > This package provides a library and executable to facilitate the > > > >> > use of citeproc with pandoc 1.12 and greater. (Earlier versions > > > >> > of pandoc have integrated citeproc support.) > > > >> > > > > >> > What I do not understand is : > > > >> > > > > >> > Should not the LATER versions of pandoc have integrated citeproc > > support ? > > > >> How can the NEW citeproc library be integrated into the EARLIER > > > >> versions of pandoc? > > > >> > > > > >> > Please clarify. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thank you, > > > >> > > > > >> > Ashim > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > >> > Google Groups > > > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > > >> > send an > > > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9b8b96e0-aab8-4617 > > > >> - a003-9e91dd74a9d6n%40googlegroups.com. > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > >> > Google Groups > > > >> "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > > >> > send an > > > >> email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > > >> discuss/3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29%40unibe.ch. > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > >> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > > > >> send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > > > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAC8%3D1er- > > > >> > > 3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA%2BnT4w%40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > discuss/ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13%40unibe.ch. > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/m2bl6tj6k2.fsf%40Johns- > > Air.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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end of thread, other threads:[~2021-07-30 3:59 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 8+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2021-07-23 7:07 Confused about citeproc vs pandoc-citeproc Ashim Kapoor [not found] ` <9b8b96e0-aab8-4617-a003-9e91dd74a9d6n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-23 7:23 ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [not found] ` <3c8f617dd70e4f5395f4579784512e29-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-23 7:59 ` Ashim Kapoor [not found] ` <CAC8=1er-3gRdqxdLD0BmrWwzU4rm9dRUMeTB4xa9c29dA+nT4w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-23 8:22 ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [not found] ` <ff91878d9a4d4d0c84156822125abb13-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-23 17:14 ` John MacFarlane [not found] ` <m2bl6tj6k2.fsf-d8241O7hbXoP5tpWdHSM3tPlBySK3R6THiGdP5j34PU@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-27 6:46 ` Ashim Kapoor [not found] ` <CAC8=1eqOfqBMPoT4pV8QFMYD74-Zh8KesdSCF8AKoiwgAtArRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-29 12:37 ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 [not found] ` <7c95a06586924d0f843ba484f9e32f6e-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org> 2021-07-30 3:59 ` Ashim Kapoor
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