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* All entries in `references` are listed in bibliography, not only the cited ones
@ 2021-06-11 11:44 Frederik Elwert
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From: Frederik Elwert @ 2021-06-11 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello everybody,

when upgrading pandoc in our publication workflow (2.9→2.13), and thus 
switching from pandoc-citeproc to citeproc, we noticed a change in 
behaviour:

We are converting all references authors send us to csl-yaml and embedd 
them within the markdown file through the `references` metadata variable.

Previously, only those entries that were actually cited also got printed in 
the bibliography. That’s what we expected. Now, with citeproc, we find that 
*all* entries from the `references` list are printed in the bibliography. 
This is different from taking the same entries, putting them in an external 
bibtex file, and include them with the `bibliography` metadata key. If we 
do that, we get the old behaviour.

So in sum, `references` now behaves like `bibliography` + `nocite: @*`.

Is this the new intended behaviour, or is this a bug/regression?

(For us, the older behaviour worked better, because often authors have 
additional entries in their bibliography, against the guidelines. The old 
behaviour made sure we only include those that are actually cited. Now we 
have to check the references list manually.)

Thanks in advance,
Frederik

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* Re: All entries in `references` are listed in bibliography, not only the cited ones
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@ 2021-06-11 12:42   ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
  2021-06-11 20:34     ` fiddlosopher
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From: 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss @ 2021-06-11 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I’m seeing this, too (using the most recent dev version), and agree in preferring the ‘old’ behaviour.

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Friday, June 11, 2021 11:44 AM, Frederik Elwert <frederik.elwert@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> when upgrading pandoc in our publication workflow (2.9→2.13), and thus switching from pandoc-citeproc to citeproc, we noticed a change in behaviour:
>
> We are converting all references authors send us to csl-yaml and embedd them within the markdown file through the `references` metadata variable.
>
> Previously, only those entries that were actually cited also got printed in the bibliography. That’s what we expected. Now, with citeproc, we find that *all* entries from the `references` list are printed in the bibliography. This is different from taking the same entries, putting them in an external bibtex file, and include them with the `bibliography` metadata key. If we do that, we get the old behaviour.
>
> So in sum, `references` now behaves like `bibliography` + `nocite: @*`.
>
> Is this the new intended behaviour, or is this a bug/regression?
>
> (For us, the older behaviour worked better, because often authors have additional entries in their bibliography, against the guidelines. The old behaviour made sure we only include those that are actually cited. Now we have to check the references list manually.)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Frederik
>
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* Re: All entries in `references` are listed in bibliography, not only the cited ones
  2021-06-11 12:42   ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
@ 2021-06-11 20:34     ` fiddlosopher
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From: fiddlosopher @ 2021-06-11 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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It wasn't an intentional change, so please submit a bug report.

On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 5:42:55 AM UTC-7 Nick Bart wrote:

> I’m seeing this, too (using the most recent dev version), and agree in 
> preferring the ‘old’ behaviour.
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Friday, June 11, 2021 11:44 AM, Frederik Elwert <frederi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> when upgrading pandoc in our publication workflow (2.9→2.13), and thus 
> switching from pandoc-citeproc to citeproc, we noticed a change in 
> behaviour:
>
> We are converting all references authors send us to csl-yaml and embedd 
> them within the markdown file through the `references` metadata variable.
>
> Previously, only those entries that were actually cited also got printed 
> in the bibliography. That’s what we expected. Now, with citeproc, we find 
> that *all* entries from the `references` list are printed in the 
> bibliography. This is different from taking the same entries, putting them 
> in an external bibtex file, and include them with the `bibliography` 
> metadata key. If we do that, we get the old behaviour.
>
> So in sum, `references` now behaves like `bibliography` + `nocite: @*`.
>
> Is this the new intended behaviour, or is this a bug/regression?
>
> (For us, the older behaviour worked better, because often authors have 
> additional entries in their bibliography, against the guidelines. The old 
> behaviour made sure we only include those that are actually cited. Now we 
> have to check the references list manually.)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Frederik
>
>
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* Re: All entries in `references` are listed in bibliography, not only the cited ones
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Bug report at https://github.com/jgm/citeproc/issues/75.

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