How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

[jiewuza]

For example, in my test.md (here XXX stands for CJK text)
```
XXXXX @some-bibkey XXXXX
```

pandoc would convert it into tex like
```
XXXXX \textcite{some-bibkey} XXXXX
```

Note the spaces around `\textcite{some-bibkey}`, which would be
preserved in the final pdf, like
```
XXXXX XXX XXXXX
```

However, for CJK document convention, those spaces are not wanted.

If I removed the spaces in my test.md as
```
XXXXX@some-bibkeyXXXXX
```
The citation is not recognized at all.

I have no idea how to make it in a lua filter.

Or should I resort to any other external tools to do it?

Re: How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

[John MacFarlane]

first suggestion would be to use this form of citation

    XXX[@cite]XXX

Then spaces aren't required.

Second suggestion would be to use a lua filter to
strip spaces.  That's easy enough.

-- nospace.lua 
function Space(el)
  return {}
end

This will strip all regular textual spaces in the
document (keeping soft breaks and spaces in code).

jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> writes:

> For example, in my test.md (here XXX stands for CJK text)
> ```
> XXXXX @some-bibkey XXXXX
> ```
>
> pandoc would convert it into tex like
> ```
> XXXXX \textcite{some-bibkey} XXXXX
> ```
>
> Note the spaces around `\textcite{some-bibkey}`, which would be
> preserved in the final pdf, like
> ```
> XXXXX XXX XXXXX
> ```
>
> However, for CJK document convention, those spaces are not wanted.
>
> If I removed the spaces in my test.md as
> ```
> XXXXX@some-bibkeyXXXXX
> ```
> The citation is not recognized at all.
>
> I have no idea how to make it in a lua filter.
>
> Or should I resort to any other external tools to do it?
>
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Re: How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

[jiewuza]

John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:

> first suggestion would be to use this form of citation
>
>     XXX[@cite]XXX
>
> Then spaces aren't required.
>
Well, `[@cite]` is converted to `autocite` and `@cite` to `textcite`.
At first I set `autocite` to `supercite` (author not mentioned in the
citation).
In my example, I want to show the author, so I used `@cite` instead of `[@cite]`.

Thank you for your suggestion.
I will learn and try to customize my biblatex settings to make it work.


> Second suggestion would be to use a lua filter to
> strip spaces.  That's easy enough.
>
> -- nospace.lua 
> function Space(el)
>   return {}
> end
>
> This will strip all regular textual spaces in the
> document (keeping soft breaks and spaces in code).
>

In my real document, it is possible to have CJK and English text mixed
together. I guess this `nospace` lua filter will do damage to English
text.


> jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> For example, in my test.md (here XXX stands for CJK text)
>> ```
>> XXXXX @some-bibkey XXXXX
>> ```
>>
>> pandoc would convert it into tex like
>> ```
>> XXXXX \textcite{some-bibkey} XXXXX
>> ```
>>
>> Note the spaces around `\textcite{some-bibkey}`, which would be
>> preserved in the final pdf, like
>> ```
>> XXXXX XXX XXXXX
>> ```
>>
>> However, for CJK document convention, those spaces are not wanted.
>>
>> If I removed the spaces in my test.md as
>> ```
>> XXXXX@some-bibkeyXXXXX
>> ```
>> The citation is not recognized at all.
>>
>> I have no idea how to make it in a lua filter.
>>
>> Or should I resort to any other external tools to do it?
>>
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Re: How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

[jiewuza]

John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:

> first suggestion would be to use this form of citation
>
>     XXX[@cite]XXX
>
> Then spaces aren't required.
>
Well, `[@cite]` is converted to `\autocite` and `@cite` to `\textcite`
in tex (using biblatex). At first I set `\autocite` to `\supercite`. So
when I want to supercite a citation, I use `[@cite]` (which shows a
superscript number in the final pdf), and when I want to textcite a
citation, I use `@cite` instead (which shows the author in the final
pdf). This toggles citation style conveniently.

In my example, I want to show the author, so I used `@cite`.

Your suggestion is helpful. It solves the spaces-problem.
But I also want to keep the toggle-mechanism.
Fortunately, I read in the document `A minus sign (-) before the @ will
suppress mention of the author in the citation.`

However, I find that `[-@cite]` is converted to `\autocite*` in tex.
I cannot configure `\autocite` and `\autocite*` to different commands in
biblatex, so that I can make one show a superscript number while another
show the author.


> Second suggestion would be to use a lua filter to
> strip spaces.  That's easy enough.
>
> -- nospace.lua
> function Space(el)
>   return {}
> end
>
> This will strip all regular textual spaces in the
> document (keeping soft breaks and spaces in code).
>

In my real document, it is possible to have CJK and English text mixed
together. I guess this `nospace` lua filter will do damage to English
text.

> jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> For example, in my test.md (here XXX stands for CJK text)
>> ```
>> XXXXX @some-bibkey XXXXX
>> ```
>>
>> pandoc would convert it into tex like
>> ```
>> XXXXX \textcite{some-bibkey} XXXXX
>> ```
>>
>> Note the spaces around `\textcite{some-bibkey}`, which would be
>> preserved in the final pdf, like
>> ```
>> XXXXX XXX XXXXX
>> ```
>>
>> However, for CJK document convention, those spaces are not wanted.
>>
>> If I removed the spaces in my test.md as
>> ```
>> XXXXX@some-bibkeyXXXXX
>> ```
>> The citation is not recognized at all.
>>
>> I have no idea how to make it in a lua filter.
>>
>> Or should I resort to any other external tools to do it?
>>
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Re: How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

[BPJ]

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Maybe you can cheat by using ​ zero width space which if I am not
mistaken is meant exactly for situations like this.

Den tis 23 apr. 2019 18:14jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > first suggestion would be to use this form of citation
> >
> >     XXX[@cite]XXX
> >
> > Then spaces aren't required.
> >
> Well, `[@cite]` is converted to `\autocite` and `@cite` to `\textcite`
> in tex (using biblatex). At first I set `\autocite` to `\supercite`. So
> when I want to supercite a citation, I use `[@cite]` (which shows a
> superscript number in the final pdf), and when I want to textcite a
> citation, I use `@cite` instead (which shows the author in the final
> pdf). This toggles citation style conveniently.
>
> In my example, I want to show the author, so I used `@cite`.
>
> Your suggestion is helpful. It solves the spaces-problem.
> But I also want to keep the toggle-mechanism.
> Fortunately, I read in the document `A minus sign (-) before the @ will
> suppress mention of the author in the citation.`
>
> However, I find that `[-@cite]` is converted to `\autocite*` in tex.
> I cannot configure `\autocite` and `\autocite*` to different commands in
> biblatex, so that I can make one show a superscript number while another
> show the author.
>
>
> > Second suggestion would be to use a lua filter to
> > strip spaces.  That's easy enough.
> >
> > -- nospace.lua
> > function Space(el)
> >   return {}
> > end
> >
> > This will strip all regular textual spaces in the
> > document (keeping soft breaks and spaces in code).
> >
>
> In my real document, it is possible to have CJK and English text mixed
> together. I guess this `nospace` lua filter will do damage to English
> text.
>
> > jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> >> For example, in my test.md (here XXX stands for CJK text)
> >> ```
> >> XXXXX @some-bibkey XXXXX
> >> ```
> >>
> >> pandoc would convert it into tex like
> >> ```
> >> XXXXX \textcite{some-bibkey} XXXXX
> >> ```
> >>
> >> Note the spaces around `\textcite{some-bibkey}`, which would be
> >> preserved in the final pdf, like
> >> ```
> >> XXXXX XXX XXXXX
> >> ```
> >>
> >> However, for CJK document convention, those spaces are not wanted.
> >>
> >> If I removed the spaces in my test.md as
> >> ```
> >> XXXXX@some-bibkeyXXXXX
> >> ```
> >> The citation is not recognized at all.
> >>
> >> I have no idea how to make it in a lua filter.
> >>
> >> Or should I resort to any other external tools to do it?
> >>
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Re: How to remove the spaces around citations for CJK document when converted into pdf

[jiewuza]

Thanks.
Never thought of zero width space.
I will give it a shot.

BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> Maybe you can cheat by using &#x200b; zero width space which if I am not mistaken is meant exactly for situations like this.
>
> Den tis 23 apr. 2019 18:14jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> skrev:
>
>  John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>  > first suggestion would be to use this form of citation
>  >
>  >     XXX[@cite]XXX
>  >
>  > Then spaces aren't required.
>  >
>  Well, `[@cite]` is converted to `\autocite` and `@cite` to `\textcite`
>  in tex (using biblatex). At first I set `\autocite` to `\supercite`. So
>  when I want to supercite a citation, I use `[@cite]` (which shows a
>  superscript number in the final pdf), and when I want to textcite a
>  citation, I use `@cite` instead (which shows the author in the final
>  pdf). This toggles citation style conveniently.
>
>  In my example, I want to show the author, so I used `@cite`.
>
>  Your suggestion is helpful. It solves the spaces-problem.
>  But I also want to keep the toggle-mechanism.
>  Fortunately, I read in the document `A minus sign (-) before the @ will
>  suppress mention of the author in the citation.`
>
>  However, I find that `[-@cite]` is converted to `\autocite*` in tex.
>  I cannot configure `\autocite` and `\autocite*` to different commands in
>  biblatex, so that I can make one show a superscript number while another
>  show the author.
>
>  > Second suggestion would be to use a lua filter to
>  > strip spaces.  That's easy enough.
>  >
>  > -- nospace.lua
>  > function Space(el)
>  >   return {}
>  > end
>  >
>  > This will strip all regular textual spaces in the
>  > document (keeping soft breaks and spaces in code).
>  >
>
>  In my real document, it is possible to have CJK and English text mixed
>  together. I guess this `nospace` lua filter will do damage to English
>  text.
>
>  > jiewuza <jiewuza-9Onoh4P/yGk@public.gmane.org> writes:
>  >
>  >> For example, in my test.md (here XXX stands for CJK text)
>  >> ```
>  >> XXXXX @some-bibkey XXXXX
>  >> ```
>  >>
>  >> pandoc would convert it into tex like
>  >> ```
>  >> XXXXX \textcite{some-bibkey} XXXXX
>  >> ```
>  >>
>  >> Note the spaces around `\textcite{some-bibkey}`, which would be
>  >> preserved in the final pdf, like
>  >> ```
>  >> XXXXX XXX XXXXX
>  >> ```
>  >>
>  >> However, for CJK document convention, those spaces are not wanted.
>  >>
>  >> If I removed the spaces in my test.md as
>  >> ```
>  >> XXXXX@some-bibkeyXXXXX
>  >> ```
>  >> The citation is not recognized at all.
>  >>
>  >> I have no idea how to make it in a lua filter.
>  >>
>  >> Or should I resort to any other external tools to do it?
>  >>
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