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That solved it! > However, I included the double braces because I have quite a few foreign= =20 > language titles, and when generating the final document, it would transfo= rm=20 > the titles using titlecase. So *Ceci est un livre* would become *Ceci Est= =20 > Un Livre*=E2=80=94which is incorrect. Is there another way to stop it fro= m doing=20 > this?=20 > > On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 11:23:22 AM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote: > >> >> Normally pandoc will try to extract a short-title from the >> title field of a bibtex entry by splitting on the colon. >> But this is being blocked in this case because you have >> put the whole title in an extra set of braces. >> >> Try with >> >> title =3D {This is a title: with a subtitle}, >> >> >> MK writes: >> >> > You can see in the bibliographic entry that I posted (and below) that= =20 >> > there's no short title field; however is there something in the CSL fi= le=20 >> > itself that would generate short titles? Or is specifying a short titl= e=20 >> in=20 >> > the bibtex file necessary?=20 >> > >> > @Book{somekey, >> > >> > author =3D {Doe, Jane},=20 >> > >> > title =3D {{This is a title: with a subtitle}},=20 >> > >> > publisher =3D {Yale University Press},=20 >> > >> > address =3D {New Haven},=20 >> > >> > year =3D {year},=20 >> > >> > >> > On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 4:55:36 PM UTC-5 John MacFarlane wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Do you have a 'short-title' field in your CSL bibliography for this >> >> entry? >> >> >> >> MK writes: >> >> >> >> > Hi, I'm sure I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure th= is=20 >> >> out.=20 >> >> > I'd like for the first instance of a reference to use the first tit= le=20 >> >> and=20 >> >> > all subsequent instances to use a shortened title (whatever appears= =20 >> >> before=20 >> >> > the colon). So for example the first instance would be: >> >> > >> >> > Jane Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good *(Place: Press, Year) >> >> > >> >> > While the second should be: >> >> > >> >> > Doe, *Some Book* >> >> > >> >> > However, each time it reprints the entire title, so even on the=20 >> second=20 >> >> > instance it would be: Doe, *Some Book: Which is Really Good.* >> >> > >> >> > I'm using Chicago CSL and have tried both the one called 'full note= ,=20 >> >> with=20 >> >> > ibid.' and 'full note, short title subsequent.'=20 >> >> > >> >> > --=20 >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= =20 >> >> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,= =20 >> send=20 >> >> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> >> > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >> >>=20 >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/caa09581-aa09-4031-9551= -45663a1b9f4bn%40googlegroups.com >> >> . >> >> >> > >> > --=20 >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 >> an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ab459950-7840-47e0-8755= -a750dc35e558n%40googlegroups.com >> . >> > > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgi= d/pandoc-discuss/5fc3f306-82bc-4714-bd88-9291b9f4f2e4n%40googlegroups.com. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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